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Alternative Oil Filters ~ original poster wmax351
« on: September 23, 2013, 08:08:08 PM »
Mahle OC-91 (@ Amazon) is apparently the BMW OEM filter, sans logo.

Bosch 3330 and 72161 are the same filter, 3330 in mfg'd by Purolator in the US, under the Bosch brand. $3.50 a pop for either from rockauto.

From the list at IBMWR.org, with a few annotations from me (wmax351).

Six oil filter manufacturers for K oil filter
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:01:50 -0700
From: Roy Truelsen <royster@worldnet.att.net>
As info, the pressure relief valve on the BMW oil filter is rated at 9-11 psi, same as the Fram 6063. The Fram 3614 is rated at 9-12 psi.
Other alternative filters for the K-bike include:
Amsoil ASF-57
AC Delco PF-53
Hastings 157A, LF157
Motorcraft FL-271, FL-793
Purolator FCO-201, PER-241
Wix 51348, 51785
Roy Truelsen
Portland, Oregon


Sseven oil filter manufacturers for K100 spark plug and oil filter
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 08:08:24 -0500
From: Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins@kc.net>
Gathering together information to service my '85 K100, I found some details that didn't seem to be on the current parts list:
Oil Filter:
There was a lot of discussion on this ca '95-'96, with the engineering specs for the FRAM coming out as good or better than the BMW filter. Someone else pointed out that BMW does not manufacture their filters, but outsources.
Per Joe Senner:
   AMSOIL: ASF-57
   AC DELCO: PF-53
   FRAM: PH-3614, PH6063
   Hastings: 157A, LF157
   Motorcraft: FL-271, FL-793
   Purolator: FCO-201, PER-241
   Wix: 51348, 51785
Others including Rob Lentini have documented the Fram 3614, and I've used it; it's the only one I've tried.
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Re: Alternative Oil Filters ~ original poster wmax351
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2013, 12:00:38 AM »
Beemerboneyard sells a Mahle air filter which they say is the same as OEM for around $10 less than BMW's  ($33). 

edit: And I did a search for the Mahle part # (LX75) and found it on Amazon.com for $5 less than that!   Arrived yesterday and it is exactly like the BMW original.  With free shipping, I am a very happy biker.
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Re: Alternative Oil Filters ~ original poster wmax351
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2013, 01:07:26 AM »
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Re: Alternative Oil Filters ~ original poster wmax351
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2013, 09:49:26 PM »
Napa gold 1348

or if you would like it without the sticker get the PS1348

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Re: Alternative Oil Filters ~ original poster wmax351
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2013, 11:07:19 AM »
I stopped using Fram 3614 when they started putting the grippy coating on them in the early 90's. It flakes off in the sump.  Fram 6063 is uncoated and unpainted, but harder to find and pricier.  Been using Delco pf-53's since
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Re: Alternative Oil Filters ~ original poster wmax351
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2013, 01:40:08 AM »
I've used the Quaker State QS3614 oil filter in my K75c for years now with no trouble.
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Re: Alternative Oil Filters ~ original poster wmax351
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2015, 05:09:40 AM »
Mann oil filter supposed to be OEM Part No MW712. Mann fuel filter MWK 44 both available in Australia.
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Re: Alternative Oil Filters ~ original poster wmax351
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2016, 10:51:10 PM »
I'm looking at that "Bosch 3330" wondering why the hell that rang a bell with me.

It finally clicked.

It's what almost all Toyota's 4cyl run. I quit using them (Bosch) because the anti drain back is not good and on a toyota that leads to a lot of start up rattle and timing chain noise since it uses oil pressure on the 22r motors to tension the timing chain. Went back to the toyota filters.

 No stickers on them to scrape off.

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Re: Alternative Oil Filters ~ original poster wmax351
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2016, 11:51:57 PM »
anti drain back valve would not be a problem in a K.  Unless the bike is upside down, then you probably have bigger problems. 
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Re: Alternative Oil Filters ~ original poster wmax351
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2016, 07:06:26 AM »
I cringe when I hear of people using Fram filters.  I was a member of a fluid power engineering society back in the 80's and they did a report on filters for hydrauic and engine oil.  Fram was far and away the worst filter they tested out of about 40 or 50 brands.  Very inconsistant pressure relief action and poor filtration.  I admit, it was a long time ago, but I haven't heard anything in the meantime to indicate they are building better filters, and with so many alternatives I figure why take a chance.
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Re: Alternative Oil Filters ~ original poster wmax351
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2016, 07:27:27 AM »
anti drain back valve would not be a problem in a K.  Unless the bike is upside down, then you probably have bigger problems.

Probably right with them being in the sumo and so low in the motor. On most toyota 4cyl they are halfway up the block and on their side. I'll be changing oil in the next couple days. I'll get some side by side shots.
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Re: Alternative Oil Filters ~ original poster wmax351
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2018, 10:52:39 AM »
Interesting video on Fram filters.  The comment section is educational as to the reports of cardboard from the filter clogging oil galleries and blocking oil flow, destroying engines.



Also, from the comments, K&N aren't all that good either.  One comment mentions them being banned by race sanctioning bodies because they fail and dump oil on the track surface.
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Re: Alternative Oil Filters ~ original poster wmax351
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2018, 03:41:48 PM »
Early in my career I used to be a spare parts manager for a overseas car manufacturer. We had two sources for parts the passenger car division and the commercial division. and a  couple of the filters were interchangeable. The commercial filters were vastly superior in construction, better in everyway. The passenger filters were local,  and made filters for most brand vehicles at the time and I wouldn't use them in anything. We would stock both filters, if you were nice we sold you the commercial filter if you were not you got the passenger filter. :neener: Also at the time we had a customer who had a small auto supply place and the he got hold of a batch of Israeli air cleaner and oil filters really cheap. While the oil filters never caused any problems ( that we know of) he had a large problem with the air cleaner elements. A guy I new bought one a proceeded to drive it with no problems until it rained. The element turned to mush and proceeded to be sucked into the engine destroying the engine. The shop owner stopped using all the elements and oil filters and he recalled as many as he could, I don't know how many claims he had against him. And some of the air cleaner elements survived as he had customers requesting them, they probably didn't drive in the rain. :hehehe
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Re: Alternative Oil Filters ~ original poster wmax351
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2018, 12:48:39 PM »
Mahle LX75 air filter
Rockauto $22.79


sorry, this was supposed to be in the air filter thread
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