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03/18/12: A printer-friendly PDF of this information has been attached at the bottom of this post. (Minus the superfluous technical drawings.)


General Maintenance Tips for K75s, K100s, K1s & K1100s

Disclaimer: This is what I do/use for my personal K bikes and am comfortable with.  I make no claims that it is the be all and end all, it's just how I maintain my own bikes.  If you think I'm wrong about anything and want to do/use something else then that's fine with me.  Any advice you take from me is at your own risk - and worth exactly what you paid for it.

MOTOR OIL: K bikes have a dry clutch so there is no need to buy special motorcycle oil for a K.  This means that you can save money by using plain old car oil.  I use Mobil 1 15-50 on a 10,000 mile change interval which is cheapest when purchased at Wal-Mart in the big jug.  (I would also be amenable to Shell Rotella T synthetic as that is supposedly another good oil.  Amsoil's also good oil but overpriced if you ask me.)

If I were going to use regular oil then I'd use Castrol GTX 20-50 on a 6,000 mile change interval.  (If your bike is low mileage then use the Castrol GTX for the first 20,000 miles to let the rings seat properly.)

In fact, once my Mobil 1 is past 5,000 miles then I'll top it off with either more Mobil 1 or use Castrol since that will hold up until the next oil change.  It is OK to mix synthetic and regular oil.

OIL FILTERS:  BMW OEM oil filters are, like many things BMW, overpriced.  Fram oil filters are crap.  I use Bosch 72161 oil filters which cost about $3.50 on-line at Rock Auto. Since the oil filter is "wet" (submerged), whatever filter you use make sure that any stickers or labels on the outside of the filter are removed prior to installation.

OIL FILTER WRENCH: You'll need a special oil filter wrench to remove/install the oil filter.  You can use the expensive Hazet one from BMW or take your oil filter to an auto parts store or Wal-Mart and find one that looks like this:


I prefer metal over plastic since the plastic ones will wear out eventually but if plastic is all you can find...

The specifications for the oil wrench are a 76mm diameter with 14 flutes.  AutoZone sells the "OEM" brand "B" Oil Filter Wrench - part number 25401.

CRUSH RING and OIL FILTER COVER GASKET:  I generally change these every other oil change.  The BMW part number for the oil filter cover gasket(O-ring) is 11131460425   .

ADDED 2/16/13: I forgot to mention that you don't really have to undo the drain plug, just the oil filter cover. Given how the drainage works in the oil pan you'll leave less than an extra ounce of old in there.  Not worth messing with the drain plug if you ask me.

REFILLING THE OIL AFTER A CHANGE:  Once you have your new oil filter installed, don't just read the owner's manual specs and pour that much in. If you haven't done so already, put the bike up on the center stand on a level surface. Slowly add oil until you can see it in the sight glass and fill it slowly until it's about at the top of the sight glass.  Start the engine and let it run for a few minutes to fill up the oil filter.  Then turn the bike off and let it sit for 5-10 minutes to let the oil drain back into the sump.  Then add oil slowly until it's about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way up the sight glass.  Go for a ride and then be sure to check the sight glass again the next day and top off to the 2/3 to 3/4 level in the sight glass as needed.

OIL CONSUMPTION:  It is normal behavior for K bike engines to burn oil so if you're going through a quart of oil every 1,500 to 2,000 miles there is no need for concern.  Be sure to check the sight glass every several hundred miles and top off as need to the 2/3 to 3/4 level in the sight glass.  Check the oil level (with the bike on the center stand) when the engine is cold or has at least sat for several minutes after a riding.

FINAL DRIVE OIL: I use Mobil 1 75-90 gear oil in the final drive on a 20,000 mile change interval.  The final drive should be filled to the bottom of the threads of the filler hole.

TRANSMISSION OIL: I use Mobil 1 75-90 oil on a 20,000 mile change interval in the transmission too.  If you feel as though your transmission shifting is a bit "chunky" then using Mobil 1 75-140 can sometimes improve things a bit.

ADDED 3/18/12:  I also use Guard Dog Moly Gear Oil Additive in my final drives and transmissions.  Seems to make them shift a bit more smoothly.

For K75s and 2 valve K100 models the shock wrench in the factory tool kit has a line marked on it.  This serves as a dipstick in the transmission filler hole.

For K100RS Four Valve models and K1100s there should be an L-shaped piece of metal in your tool kit which is marked with the proper level for transmission.

If you don't have either then it's very easy to make your own transmission oil dipstick.  Take a piece of coat hanger wire, put a right angle in one end of it and then put a small bend in it 115 mm (a tad over 4.5") away from the right angle.

When draining the transmission, as it gets to the end and the draining stream of oil gets thin it tends to cling to the right bar of the center stand, run down the center stand and make a nice gear oil mess on the floor.  This can be avoided if, prior to removing the transmission drain plug, you place some aluminum foil between the drain hole and the center stand and shape it so that the oil is directed into your drain pan.

Side note:  Before changing any oil always remove the filler plug first.  The last thing you want is to drain it and then not be able to refill it. This is seldom an issue on K bikes though.

FORK OIL: I use Honda 10W red fork oil and change it annually. Here's a good write-up on identifying what forks you have and what amount of fork oil you should use in each side.

When draining the fork oil place some aluminum foil on the brake rotor and tire below the fork drain plug so you don't get them all messy when draining the forks.

Do not overtighten the fork drain plugs when putting them back in.  Just get them snug and be careful not to strip the threads.

To refill the forks I use a small kitchen funnel and measure the fork oil with a Pyrex measuring cup. (I'm not married.) Go SLOWLY as it takes time for the oil to find it's way in.

RADIATOR COOLANT:  Just about any automotive coolant is fine in a K bike.  Just make sure the bottle says that it's safe for aluminum engine parts.  Most are these days so that's not as much of an issue as it used to be.

I use a combination of 40% coolant and 60% distilled water.  It's probably OK to use the premixed 50/50 stuff if you're lazy but 40/60 is a tad better as water has better thermal transfer properties than coolant.

FUEL FILTER: Like many things BMW, the OEM fuel filters are insanely priced.  I use a Napa Gold 3032 or 3012 fuel filter and change them either annually or every 10,000 miles, whichever comes first. 

On K bikes the fuel filter resides in the fuel tank.  Changing the fuel filter is easier if you run the tank down or siphon the gas out.  You need to open the gas cap and remove it to change the fuel filter.  If you're not careful its easy to strip the heads of the four small Phillips screws that hold the gas cap to the tank so clean out the heads of those screws with a tack or needle or something and use a good screwdriver with adequate downward pressure to break them free.

Unscrew the forward hose clamp first.  You can then pull the fuel filter out of the tank and undo the other hose clamp.  Be sure to note the direction of flow arrow printed on the fuel filter (or in/out markings) and install the new one in the same orientation.

AIR FILTER: K bike air filters are way oversized and do not need to be replaced every 12,000 miles as recommended by BMW.  I change them every 50,000 miles - whether they need it or not.  Given the long service life I just pay the money for the BMW OEM air filters and have never bothered trying to track down a substitute.

More info here: Replacing/inspecting the air filter on a K bike


K&N air filters let more crud through than the BMW air filters and require periodic cleaning and re-oiling so I would recommend not using them.  They WILL NOT increase the horsepower output of a K bike despite all of K&N's clever marketing claims.

SPARK PLUGS: The Bosch spark plugs recommended for K bikes and sold by BMW are good spark plugs and there's nothing wrong with using those on a 12-15,000 mile interval.  If you want to go the less expernsive route then Autolite 4163 plugs or NGK D7EA  work just fine in K bikes although they don't come with the little screw on caps you.  I've run them in my K bikes in the past and know others who have run them for tens of thousands of miles with no issues.

They're a little expensive ($8/each on eBay or at NAPA) but I currently use NGK Iridium DR7EIX spark plugs in my K bikes.  They're one of the best spark plugs out there and have a very long service life.  Not sure I'd use those on a K75 though since they're resistive and the K75 spark plug leads already have resistive  gaps.

It's a good idea to synch the throttle bodies after the spark plugs have been changed.

GASOLINE: I generally (but not obsessively) use Chevron or Texaco Supreme gas with Techron in it to help keep the injectors and fuel system clean.  It's good stuff.

FUEL SYSTEM CLEANER: Every once in a while I buy a bottle of Chevron Techron Concentrate at an auto parts tore and add 6 ounces when filling up to keep the  fuel injectors and fuel system clean.  If you just bought a bike that's been sitting for a while then I'd recommend doing this.  Be sure to get the Techron Concentrate, not the fuel injector cleaner.

BRAKE FLUID:  Use ONLY DOT4 compatible brake fluid.

DISC BRAKE "SQUEAL":  This is caused by high frequency vibrations between the caliper pistons and the backs of the brake pads.  This isn't usually a problem on the four valve front brakes since the pads have anti-vibration springs on them.  For 2 valve front brakes and all rear brakes spraying some of this on the backs of the brake pads should eliminate break squeal:

BLEEDING ABS BRAKES: Bleed at the modulator first, then the caliper.

THROTTLE, CLUTCH & CHOKE CABLES: DO NOT put any lubricants in K bike control cables.  They are lined with a Teflonish substance and anything you put in there will degrade that lining and reduce their service life.

CLUTCH CABLE LUBRICATION:  It's a good idea to annually lubricate the barrels at both ends of the clutch cable (clutch lever and clutch arm on the back of the transmission) with grease.

K75 and 2 VALVE K100 THROTTLE LUBRICATION: On an annual basis this should be lubricated. First remove the right side combination switch by removing the small Philips head machine screw near the bottom of it.  Use a good screwdriver as sometimes this screw can be sticky and you don't want to strip the head of the machine screw.  Next remove the large Philips head machine screw on the top of the throttle perch next to the front brake master cylinder and lift off the plate that it is holding down.  I can't say that it's' the "right" lubricant to use but I've found that a K75/K100 throttle will snap back much better if you clean out all of the old grease and spray down the gears with silicone lubricant.

K75RT/K1100LT ELECTRIC WINDSCREEN:  The rods on which the electric windscreen travels should be cleaned and lubricated annually.  This reduces the load on the windscreen motor and will prolong it's service life.  BMW recommends using a silicone lubricant as that tends to attract less dust than other lubricants.  I use this:

Several BMW K Bike Maintenance Schedules in PDF format are attached below.


ADDED 8/21/11: For 93 and earlier 4V K bikes(K1, K100RS4V, K1100RS K1100LT) it's also a good idea to periodically clean off the old and renew the heat sink compound (can be purchased at Radio Shack) between the ignition amp and front left side of the battery box:

Just unmount it from from the front lower left of the battery tray, clean both surfaces of the old heat sink compound and then liberally apply a new layer in between them before re-installing it.

I checked the Radio Shack site and they don't have the stuff that I used to use but it looks like current part 276-1372 would work and most stores should have it on-hand.
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Re: General maintenance tips. (NEW & IMPROVED! - 6/1/11)
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 10:45:59 PM »
While you do not want to lube the clutch cable, you should lube the little drum that holds the cable in the hand lever.  If this cannot rotate, it stresses the cable and that's where it will break.  Check yours now!
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Re: General maintenance tips. (NEW & IMPROVED! - 6/1/11)
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2011, 03:02:32 PM »
Great info. . .thanks for that little bit on lubing the barrel at the end of the clutch cable. . .Had two of them snap there so far, and I know the next time I won't be so lucky as to be pushing distance from home
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Re: General maintenance tips. (NEW & IMPROVED! - 6/1/11)
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2011, 11:53:38 AM »
Drake,

Thanks so much.  Those cut-away drawings are a HUGE help to me for visualizing how the bike is put together (Never seen them before).  I was always daunted by rear end work or changing fork seals.  Now I feel a lot better prepared to take these tasks on.

Your beer credit is growing  :)

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Re: General maintenance tips. (NEW & IMPROVED! - 6/1/11)
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2011, 12:23:02 PM »
Seņor Duck,

I've got a few questions: you mentioned buying Techron concentrate not the fuel injection cleaner, do you not recommend fuel injection cleaner or is Techron simply a better product? Second, what are your thoughts/recommendations on fuel additives for ethanol problems?

Thanks in advance and thanks for all the awesome work on this forum.
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Re: General maintenance tips. (NEW & IMPROVED! - 6/1/11)
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2011, 01:31:19 PM »
Seņor Duck,

I've got a few questions: you mentioned buying Techron concentrate not the fuel injection cleaner, do you not recommend fuel injection cleaner or is Techron simply a better product? Second, what are your thoughts/recommendations on fuel additives for ethanol problems?

Thanks in advance and thanks for all the awesome work on this forum.

Probably nothing wrong with FI cleaner but everything I've seen says Techron is the best.

There's a BMW TSB (tech service bulletin) stating that up to 10% ethanol is fine in our Ks.  I don't worry about it.
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Re: General maintenance tips. (NEW & IMPROVED! - 6/1/11)
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2011, 01:40:05 PM »
Fuel injector cleaner does what it says it does and the concentrate does that and a lot more.
If you are spending the money why not get a product that cleans the whole system?
Chevron makes a injector cleaner also but that's all it's claimed to do so I think Duck doesn't want you to get the two products confused.

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Frankenduck, it seems that all but the last of the PDF attachments have gone 404. Would it be possible to restore them?

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I re-attached them.  Thanks for letting me know.
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I use Red Line Heavy Shockproof in the transmission and final drive on my K75s. It's a habit I picked up from when I had my K1200LT. It's great stuff, takes a real beating. The "strawberry milkshake" color of it is a bit disconcerting, though.  :yow Anything that helps protect the bikes during the summer is worth it to me. Plus, I drive them like I stole them.

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=44&pcid=8
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I use Red Line Heavy Shockproof in the transmission and final drive on my K75s. It's a habit I picked up from when I had my K1200LT. It's great stuff, takes a real beating. The "strawberry milkshake" color of it is a bit disconcerting, though.  :yow Anything that helps protect the bikes during the summer is worth it to me. Plus, I drive them like I stole them.

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=44&pcid=8

75/250 that flows like 75/90?

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75/250 that flows like 75/90?

More like 75/90 that has film shear characteristics of a 250. More cushioning. Runs just like 90 wt.
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75/250 that flows like 75/90?

More like 75/90 that has film shear characteristics of a 250. More cushioning. Runs just like 90 wt.

Will this help with clunky shifts?
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Will this help with clunky shifts?

The "clunkiness" is more a function of the dry clutch, but it does make the action a bit smoother, IMHO.
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A poor craftsman blames his tools. :mbird
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Duck,

I have two questions: the altitude plug, does it exist on the 1993 K75S?

WRT filling the forks with oil, I recently changed fork springs from the OEM 20 year old originals to Wilbers Progressive and used a cheap puller to remove the snap ring and spring retainer. This made the job of refilling the forks super simple and fast.   
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The altitude plug exists on the 93 K75s of all flavors. You may not have the actual plug, but you will (should) at least have the plug receptacle, under the set on the left side, tied to one of the frame rails.

I never have gotten around to getting one of the pullers for the fork oil, always just muscled it out. Have gotten pretty good at it that way. I guess I'm not terribly smart that way.

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The altitude plug exists on the 93 K75s of all flavors. You may not have the actual plug, but you will (should) at least have the plug receptacle, under the set on the left side, tied to one of the frame rails.

I never have gotten around to getting one of the pullers for the fork oil, always just muscled it out. Have gotten pretty good at it that way. I guess I'm not terribly smart that way.

I notice you own both 93 and 94 K75s. Could you take a picture of your altitude plug/receptacle and post it here providing a reference location for me.

As for the fork oil replenishment, we all learn from eachother's experience from sources such as this website where K-bike stalwarts abound. I can say that with the internal fork spring pressure removed by the puller centre bolt putting pressure on the fillister head screw (fork oil filler point), the snap ring literally popped out with only a slight poke of a picking tool using only one hand; it was truly a wonderful experience.   :hehehe
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Altitude plug.


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Apparently the altitude plug only exists in North America wiring harnesses.  I've seen police bikes that didn't have one so I think they used a Euro wiring harness for NA police bikes. (Police bikes have additional wiring for lights, siren & radio.)
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Was going to add the Guard Dog Moly to my final drive when I change out the oil, I figured I'd ask, would there be any benefit to switch that to 75-140 as well? Or is that strictly a transmission benefit?(I did notice a difference btw)
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  Good info. I just bought a k100RT  this winter thats been sittimg for 14 years and needs a complete service.I've owned several K75's and want to tackle my own maintainance.Thanks again for yor info. :2thumbup:

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Very good info. especially to a newbie like me. Thank you!  :bmwsmile

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Re: General maintenance tips. (NEWER & IMPROVEDER! - with PDF version - 3/18/12)
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2014, 07:48:16 PM »
What do you spray on the back of the disk brake pads to stop the squeal? The link to the product appears to have disappeared.
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