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Offline Hilltopper46

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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #100 on: March 25, 2020, 09:41:29 AM »
If you want to keep it in Wisconsin, this guy rebuilt mine when I bought by K1100LT http://www.ingramshocks.com/index.html .

He's about 45 minutes southeast of me in Kenosha County..
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #101 on: March 25, 2020, 12:04:28 PM »

If it was my shock and it seems to work I would take it to a motorcycle shop that caters to the motocross crowd.  Someone there(probably one of the older guys) will recognize your shock.  They can remove the spring so you can have it stripped and powder coated. 

Ask them about a new spring.  Racers are always changing springs and if it's a good shop, they'll have a source for a new one, maybe for less than powder coating the old one.

They may also be able to do a rebuild, but if the damping works, I would be inclined to let sleeping dogs snooze.  Clean it up, paint it, and have the moto shop charge the nitrogen and reinstall the spring.
Wooooow. This must be a truly magical place, do I need a DeLorean or a telephone call box to get there? Maybe that peacock chair from the H.G. Wells story? Here in Old New Mexico they ain't got such establishments. Next you'd have us believe there are places where toilet paper and hand sanitizer can just be bought off the shelf whenever you want to!
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #102 on: March 25, 2020, 12:17:15 PM »
Wooooow. This must be a truly magical place, do I need a DeLorean or a telephone call box to get there? Maybe that peacock chair from the H.G. Wells story? Here in Old New Mexico they ain't got such establishments. Next you'd have us believe there are places where toilet paper and hand sanitizer can just be bought off the shelf whenever you want to!
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Nobody rides dirt bikes or races in New Mexico anymore????!!! 

Any moto dealer's shop should be able to remove the spring while you wait for a couple bucks.  An abrasive blaster can strip the old paint, and then it's off to a powder coater.  The shop that took it off puts it back on and charges the nitrogen.  None of it is rocket surgery. 

Marzocchi was a big name in racing shocks and forks back in the late 70's mid 80's.

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Offline Rcgreaves

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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #103 on: March 25, 2020, 09:26:00 PM »
During my drive to work the other day Iowa public radio had a Jazz show that highlighted the great singer Bessie Smith and Backwater Blues- search it on YouTube.  Anyway the lyrics could easily be modified to "Corona Virus Blues".  I've been too ill of late to get creative, so I digress.

Thanks all for your latest input.  I've located a spring compression tool and a shop to do some powder painting..As for my clutch challenges I checked into machining and used bits but can’t stomach it.  Maybe on K clutch #4 but not on K 11 #1.

There's a serviceable clutch kit on Ebay for $40 - I’ve attached a blurry image of the housing mating surface I had to request from the seller... Bothers me -when selling clutch bits to not show the most critical stuf without having to request a follow up pic.  Sorta like a used car ad that omits images of the drivers seat.  My local shops didn't have tooling to grasp and machine my clutch housing without a center mounting point  .  Growing impatient.  I don’t want to dick around with this. And I definitely want to reassemble once!!

A few overlooked items ordered from MAX today (free shipping on a $30 order BTW)   compression ring, Spacer ring and a new K75 badge...

Pitting on the mating face is probably passable. Auto machinist thought so too...New clutch housing at Motobins is about $170.  Money tight but with this critical bit I’ll go the Johnny route on this score- new bits is best when it comes to an 84k mile clutch  I’ll repaint and inspect my rear strut spring and see how it goes. 

Temps in the high 40s today- you can smell spring in the air.  Looking forward to some Moto induced social distancing -Cheers.

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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #104 on: April 10, 2020, 12:54:22 PM »
So my Honda Interceptor project has had me sidetracked a bit as I re-learned the functions of my multimeter. "Stators make AC current"...cool...." 2 of six diodes in the regulator rectifier were fried.  It took some time and patience to sort....current-gen units use MOSFETs to shunt overages...I do love BMWs....
 
Now back to my last acquisition for the K11 clutch:  I need, and acquired today Part #6 on the fiche attached- outer housing far right, Mine is fairly deeply pitted and nasty from 80k and an oil soak. 

 Max gets $300+ for this OEM Sachs outer housing OUCH.  Not a whole lot different than the K75 version for half that. a rude awakening when I saw first saw it...My COVID deprived play money account can hardly afford the used unit on eBay , now discounted to $38.  Gotta do better.
Motobins gets about $180 plus even higher cost shipment from the locked-down fortress Europe.  So, Motobins is out as a USA supplier for now.  A German dismantler outfit quoted $100+ $105 to ship...ouch!!

Anyway, good news:  a Vegas dismantler on Ebay just posted a complete clutch from a rather high mileage 1100LT (same clutch) and with a nearly spanking new -:" I can still see the machining grooves in the mating surface " part # 21212333472  can be read on the posting...."Take my money!!!

Here's the auction: 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/93-99-BMW-K1100LT-OEM-CLUTCH-PRESSURE-PLATE-R3-BX1/383409677077?autorefresh=true

the second image is the actual part from the listing.  Note the spots of wear surrounded by concentric rings.  this thing hasn't even been worn flat yet...gotta be very low mileage.  Do experts agree??

Better news yet:  he accepted an offer of $52.75 shipped.  Time to install the main seal and maybe paint the center stand.
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #105 on: April 10, 2020, 03:59:51 PM »
Wooooow. This must be a truly magical place, do I need a DeLorean or a telephone call box to get there?
Nah, I can meet you at the Mall or near the clock tower.
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #106 on: April 10, 2020, 07:39:50 PM »
Bad Natalena! Wicked Natalena!! Almost bought one in 1992 but was working for chump change at a regional airline flying Brazilian turboprops in and out of Shitkicker, Texas, a fam of four at home, and a wife with her divorce lawyer on speed dial. Had to pass. I am the proud owner of a John DeLorean original bizness card though.
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #107 on: April 11, 2020, 12:50:17 AM »
A card appropriate for dividing powder lines. John had a place not far from me in Valley Center, lost it to the attorney's representation fees.
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #108 on: April 16, 2020, 02:09:20 PM »
If John were to card powder on my just delivered clutch housing mating surface he'd miss some...  Machining grooves still visible on both components- nearly new parts! Delighted. 

I have three days of liberty, maybe I can clear a path in my trashed workshop. 

I still have no idea why the threads on my pilot puller are different than the other parts in my kit.  Early morning epiphany:  maybe that component comes with theads compatible with a puller?  Gotta check that out. ideas?
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #109 on: April 19, 2020, 09:49:33 PM »
So my tank bags show the usual wear and tear.  Showed momma the areas requiring stitches while she was chilling in front of the TV, came back in an hour and presto, stitched zipper.  This foam bonder remains flexible so I sealed the stitches with glue.

S100 detailer is the real deal, combined with a low setting on the pressure washer and it made quick work of detailing.  Got a nice line up before packing up for the night.

Interceptor project  is on the market, but I can't help but take it out and flog it while I can.  What a sound!   I uploaded a raw unedited video to YouTube.com.  If impatient.....no names... :nono2:  Skip to:30 or 2:30 for best bits.



Shop is cleaner than its been in months. I'll start by replacing the main shaft seal and pilot bearing.
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #110 on: April 19, 2020, 10:28:11 PM »
beautiful sunset there! 
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #111 on: April 19, 2020, 11:28:44 PM »
Geez too much green for me. Sounds bad arse
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #112 on: September 17, 2022, 07:44:48 PM »
So I'm back in the saddle again.  Time to reassemble.  I sourced a pilot bushing for my clutch from BMW Germany. I need a proper puller.  Is there a puller designed specifically for this job? 
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #113 on: September 17, 2022, 07:48:09 PM »
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #114 on: September 19, 2022, 12:52:25 PM »
So through the power of YouTube I discovered "the bread method" and successfully removed my bronze pilot bearing. 

Now I have all the clutch components layed out on a bench like a surgical theatre. Planning to take my factory service manual along on errands today to review the install steps.

should the oring be lubed?
mainshaft seal .5mm proud correct?
New clutch bolts... gotta look up the torques.
clutch centering tool...check.
lube the clutch splines.
got this other cool wooden tool....thinkin it was for aligning the gearbox...there was a trick to that one.

Man servicing my K75 clutch splines will be no prob!  I'll be an old hand...

gotta go, pics to follow.

How did I miss the bread method in all these decades!  Shame on you all. Laitch!  You been sleeping in?
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #115 on: September 19, 2022, 01:22:59 PM »
How did I miss the bread method in all these decades!  Shame on you all. Laitch!  You been sleeping in?
When it comes to machine repair, Rc, my first choice has always been to use tools rather than food, probably because I'm a light eater. In my defense: I usually finish a clutch job within a year.  :laughing4-giggles:
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #116 on: September 19, 2022, 02:59:50 PM »
No need to lube the clutch nut O-ring.  I use a Viton O-ring there.
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #117 on: September 19, 2022, 04:06:38 PM »
Frankenduck, cheers!"Viton we gots" in cheesconsin Johnnie donkey speak. Took service manual to the docs office waiting room to re-read the install procedure, order of worship etc.  hERE GOES!

FOR THE UNINITIATED:  here's a bread trick video that translates to our application.



 Half a slice o white bread was all this took....

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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #118 on: September 19, 2022, 09:29:50 PM »
Main shaft seal o-ring and clutch installed.  Woohoo!
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #119 on: September 21, 2022, 01:53:34 AM »
Transmission installed tonight.  Video link

https://photos.app.goo.gl/PiTJbV5GRPSM1Df57
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Re: Restoration: 1995 K1100RS for under a grand?
« Reply #120 on: September 21, 2022, 05:11:06 AM »
That sure has some shiny parts sir!

Just went completely through this thread.  WTF, you have neglected this project as I have a few myself that are are dust collectors and coat racks.

Me thinks that I like your two or three red sickles and I would like to ride each of them back to back sometime!!

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