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The Motobrick Workshop / Re: K75s -Rear Seal
« Last post by Laitch on Today at 01:05:58 AM »
I never ruminated about why the new pattern Teflon seals needed to be set at less depth than the spring-loaded seals, I just went ahead and did it because I am a slave to Authority, but after reading the typical BMWglish instructions umpteenth times, I've come to the following sleep-deprived conclusion. If the arbor for setting the old-style, spring-loaded seals were used on the Teflon seals, it could drive the seal's outside edge over the chamfer as indicated by the arrow. Whether that could happen was dependent upon the variation of depth in the block where chamfer were machined—a location that could be the "variation" in tolerances mentioned in the bulletin. The chamfer could deform a deeply-driven seal enough to allow oil migration between the seal and the block wall. Heat and oil pressure would eventually push oil completely past the seal, past the intermediate housing, and onto the clutch housing.

So BMW lessened the depth that the new-style seal was driven to account for variations in machining. The result is a new arbor was created to set the seal's outer surface at its current specified distance from the block surface.






IanT has a chance that his seal won't leak if it isn't low enough in the seal seat to deform on the chamfer. It's a calculated risk with reasonable odds and, like I mentioned previously, can make life interesting in anticipation of the outcome. If Ian takes those odds, a positive outcome would be useful information to provide the forum members.

Ian should also realize that he is not the first of us to screw up seal installation and that it is a comfort for many of us to know somebody else did it, too, so let's all thank Ian.  112350

 Thank you, Ian. 103123
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The Motobrick Workshop / Re: K75s -Rear Seal
« Last post by The Mighty Gryphon on April 29, 2024, 11:06:26 PM »
Is there a groove worn into the clutch basket where the seal's lip presses against it?  If not, you are probably okay since the reason for having the seal sit proud is to have the seal working on an unworn surface for a better seal against leakage.
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The Motobrick Workshop / Re: K75s -Rear Seal
« Last post by daveson on April 29, 2024, 10:29:55 PM »
Was my memory good, or shitty?

Edit: lower instead of proud? Then it's more than just my memory that's shitty? I've been confused about that since when I first read it, that's one thing I do remember.
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The Motobrick Workshop / Re: K75s -Rear Seal
« Last post by Laitch on April 29, 2024, 10:24:22 PM »
The service bulletin can be read and then interpreted to conform to individual belief and circumstance. Everybody's a winner.  icon_cheers

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The Motobrick Workshop / Re: K75s -Rear Seal
« Last post by daveson on April 29, 2024, 10:20:59 PM »
I'm running off a shakie memory here. I think some of the newer seals bottom out earlier. If it's the same as the original it's possibly ok.

I remember reading a quote about Bill Shakie on a dunny wall:

One would think,
With all this witt,
That Shakespeare himself,
Came here to shit.
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The Motobrick Workshop / Re: K75s -Rear Seal
« Last post by natalena on April 29, 2024, 10:00:59 PM »
There once was a Noob named Ian.
His assembly skills worth seein'
O-rings be damned, and seal be rammed,
Last ride had his rear seal a-peein' ... oil

Easier to correct now. What's a few quid?
Cheers
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Incidentally, you don't need a code reader, you can use a test light. Try following the methods described in this post.

The "test light" needs to be a single low power 12V LED. The diagnostic plug does not put out very much power so if you try something like a multi-LED 1156 turn signal bulb it probably won't illuminate.
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Ha ha! No problem. It’s a K100RS though mate. Not a K1100 you’ve done that a couple of times.
Inflation—it's affecting everything over here. :laughing4-giggles: Nevertheless, it should work with the Motronic 2.1 you've got. Try it; you'll be glad you did, maybe.
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Ha ha! No problem. It’s a K100RS though mate. Not a K1100 you’ve done that a couple of times and I just wanted to point it out so we’re not at crossed purposes.
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Incidentally, you don't need a code reader, you can use a test light. Try following the methods described in this post.
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