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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2015, 07:38:37 PM »
40yr anniversary of its loss.....
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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2015, 09:22:59 PM »
The church bell chimed 'til it rang twenty-nine times for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald.

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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2015, 09:35:54 PM »
Great Lakes shipping and freighters and ferries are sure fascinating
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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2015, 03:00:35 PM »
the lake it is said never gives up her dead when the skies of november turn gloomy...

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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2015, 08:58:51 PM »
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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2015, 02:26:44 AM »
The Great Lakes are very unpredictable weather wise, many tragic losses of life...
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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2015, 10:07:59 AM »
The highest hull stresses recorded on ocean going ships have come from the Great Lakes.  The size of the lakes, and their orientation to the direction of typical storm wind directions along with wave reflections from the shore creates confused wave patterns, and the size of the lakes leads to waves that are of very short period with steep slopes. 

I have sailed both the North Atlantic and the Great Lakes.  The difference is that waves on the lakes are typically 4-6 seconds apart whereas on the Atlantic the periods run to 14-15 seconds.  25 foot waves at sea are ugly, and can cause problems, but they are slow and have a rhythm to them.  On the other hand, 10 footers on the lakes come at you like a pack of wolves.  They knock you around from every direction and are relentless, never giving you a break to collect your wits. 

I've sailed in 40 knots in both places.  At sea, it's a tiring nuisance, on the lakes it is simply terrifying.  I have cooked dinner for the crew on the Atlantic.  On Lake Ontario, all I could do was hang on and try to control the boat as everything down below became a tossed salad and the cockpit filled with water.  The size of the lakes magnifies the problems in that the worst waves are at the ends of the lakes where you run out of room and wind up having to make very dangerous maneuvers or get blown up on the beach.  The lack of sea room to leeward takes away the option of running ahead of the waves, an option which you often have at sea.

Ships are getting stronger, and weather forecasting is getting more accurate, and that is why the Edmund Fitzgerald will probably be the last really big ship to go down on the lakes, but they still claim their share of smaller boats, some of which are manned by professionals as witnessed by the loss of two Coast Guard crewmen several years ago on Lake Ontario not far from where I work.  And the periodic loss of experienced sailors every summer due to surprise squalls or the late season storms.

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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2015, 01:31:14 PM »
Lake Superior can be pretty nice considering its reputation



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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2015, 02:54:42 PM »
Many moons ago I took some of my SCUBA diving lessons in Lake Superior offshore at Thunder Bay, plus did some sailing there. The first stratification was I think about 3 feet down, and man was that water cold! I also have sailed off the west coast of Vancouver Island, and the water there is also like ice...
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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2015, 02:58:25 PM »
If I remember right, Superior never ever gets above 56 degrees
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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2015, 08:01:50 PM »
greetings...

twice i pizzed in lake superior... both times it was temporarily warmer than 56 degrees... i guarantee you that...

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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2015, 10:34:18 PM »
So that's why the drinking water tastes funny up there!!
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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2015, 11:52:12 PM »
So that's why the drinking water tastes funny up there!!
Well Johnny you must have been at a beach or in very shallow water, I assure you that in deep water, you would be jumping out and running on it. That water was "friggin" cold! :)
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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2017, 08:57:13 AM »
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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2018, 09:43:55 PM »
Took a trip on the brick to the Michigan UP and Whitefish Point a few years ago.
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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2019, 10:04:28 AM »
Hi Johnny and the rest of you.

I've been lurking and decided to join. Even though I have nothing much useful to say at this time.

My very first post to this forum. . . "Lake Superior" grabbed me, both literally (as in I moved here 25 years ago) and then this title. I love the lake and everything about it but you have to respect it.
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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2019, 12:54:33 PM »
Welcome!  That part of the world is really beautiful.  I rode around Huron and Superior two years ago.  Ran out of gas in downtown Nippissing(sp) and had to get a liter from a woman's lawn mower to get to get up the hill to the only gas station in town.   I'm a sailor too and sail Lake Ontario. 
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Re: Legend Lives On From The Chippewa On Down Of The Big Lake They Call
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2023, 03:37:33 PM »
Thanks Johnny   4265249878
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2023, 09:14:35 PM »
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