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Offline Martin

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New Gates SAE 30 T14 Barricade Fuel Hose.
« on: August 02, 2022, 03:15:12 AM »
Submersible fuel hose in OZ can be dear and hard to get I've been quoted $100.00 a metre for T10. A few years ago I found a local Motorsport shop that stocked T10 and with membership it was $17.00 Au a metre they also stocked stainless EFI hose clips in a pack of 10 or single. One of the K Kronies dad who resides in Canberra was unable to purchase submersible hose and or clips, so I was asked if I could help. I haven't been to their store for over 3 years so I dropped in and asked for a metre of T10 and was asked where it was going to be fitted. I said in tank for fuel injection, so he said there is now something better. Gates Barricade SAE 30 T14 submersible rated to 225 PSI suitable with multiple fuels approved for use with leaded and unleaded petrol, diesel bio diesel B100, E10, E15, E85,  100% Gasahol, Methanol, Ethanol. It came out to $25.00 Au a metre with membership stainless hose clips were $2.50 Au each or $13.00 Au for a pack of 10. It sounds like with the specs it might last a lot longer than the T10.
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Offline milq

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Re: New Gates SAE 30 T14 Barricade Fuel Hose.
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2022, 09:49:04 PM »
Good info! Looks like it's available in the States too, around $10 USD/meter.
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Re: New Gates SAE 30 T14 Barricade Fuel Hose.
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2022, 10:12:08 PM »
What's the Gates part number?

If I look on the Gates site at 5/16" by 10 feet submersible line I get part 27080. Costs $236.42 for 10 feet on Amazon. ($77.57 per meter)

https://www.gates.com/us/en/fluid-power/engine-hose/fuel-line-hose.p.4219-000000-000012.v.4219-00012.html

https://www.amazon.com/Gates-27080-Fuel-Injection-Hose/dp/B004988MWW

Max BMW charges $34.44 per meter.

https://shop.maxbmw.com/fiche/PartsSearch.aspx?&searchtype=undefined&parts=16121180040%0A


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Offline Martin

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Re: New Gates SAE 30 T14 Barricade Fuel Hose.
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2022, 10:21:30 PM »
Hold the boat on the T14 I'm seeking further clarification on whether it is submersible from Gates. The supplier says yes and he orders it off Gates as submersible but one site says no. I'm currently trying to get a definitive answer off Gates.
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Offline Martin

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Re: New Gates SAE 30 T14 Barricade Fuel Hose.
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2022, 11:54:05 PM »
The query that i sent to Gates.
 
I went to get some submersible EFI T10 hose from my local supplier and was told there was now something better T14. When I got home I couldn’t see any markings on the hose stating submersible, so I rang them. I was told it was rated to 225 PSI and that it was purchased from Gates as submersible EFI hose. I posted  on an online forum that there was now a better hose than the previous T10. I then received a query from the US as to where it was rated as submersible. I would greatly appreciate your help in clarifying this matter.
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The answer that I received.


Hi Martin,

I have spoke to our Technical Team and the only information they have is as below;

https://www.gates.com/us/en/search.p.4219-000000-000012.html

SUBMERSIBLE FUEL LINE HOSE
If your in-tank applications and fuel systems cause your hoses to be in constant contact with gasoline or other fuel fluids, you need the Gates Submersible Fuel Hose. Most fuel lines are only designed to handle fuel on the interior of the hose, which can be damaged if the exterior is exposed to fuel. Gates Submersible Fuel Line Hose is capable of handling multiple types of gasoline and fuels, including gasoline, alcohol-extended gasoline, ethanols, biodiesel or diesel fuel in fully-immersed, mobile and stationary applications. Engineered for fully submersible use, these hoses are excellent for use on gas tank fuel pumps.

Temperature tolerance range of -40°C to +150°C (-40°F to +302°F).
Comprised of a FKM tube and cover with a synthetic fiber reinforcement.
Exceeds required SAE 30R10 standard.
Working pressure of up to 100 PSI.


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I now need to see what the supplier say's.
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Re: New Gates SAE 30 T14 Barricade Fuel Hose.
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2022, 10:31:02 AM »
Martin, someone in your information chain appears to be lesdyxic.  The correct designation for that hose is SAE30R14T1 or T2.  That spec indicates the outer jacket of the hose is not appropriate for immersion so should not be used in the fuel tank where it will be turned into Vegamite.
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Offline Martin

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Re: New Gates SAE 30 T14 Barricade Fuel Hose.
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2022, 04:19:46 PM »
From Gates answer any hose that is submersible should be marked as such. I've sent off copies of my correspondence with Gates. I'm currently awaiting an answer.
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Re: New Gates SAE 30 T14 Barricade Fuel Hose.
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2022, 07:01:21 PM »
Read this article.  It describes all the SAE standards for fuel line.  Pretty clearly written and easy to understand.

https://www.underhoodservice.com/correct-fuel-hose-installation/
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