Seafoam Vs Chevron Techtron

[MonkeyMcBean]

I have a feeling that the tech Ron does more for the injectors than anything else. Sad to see he didn't test his injectors.

[petermarek]

Advice would be nice. I refurbed a '85 K100RT bike and got it started on "regular" gas 89 octane. I heard the knocking, so siphoned the tank and replaced it with Shell Nitrogen 93 octane "Premium" ("may have upto 10% ethanol" here in MD, USA; what am I gonna do). Bike runs Great! No knocking, smooth acceleration, no backfires, etc.

Why do I need a product like SeaFoam or Techron? Bike is only nearing 14k original miles - it sat under a carport for ~20 years, lots of cleaning, all new rubber, a new fuel pump and injectors (refurbished) and it started. 

Thanks,

[MonkeyMcBean]

With new injectors, you probably don't need techron.  depending on how many miles you put on in a year, you might not want to use it for another 20k or so. You will want to use something to stop the water from becoming a problem. water WILL get in your tank. Even if your bike never gets wet. You'll want to run a fuel additive to help with ethanol and water problems at least once a year.

[johnny]

techron... seriously as a fuel additive... ha ha ha... i drink it... used to drink shots no chaser... butts these days itsa small cold coffee glass filled with ice cubes... 1 1/2 shots of techron... top it off with red bull...

the whole shebang can be had at truck stops for cheap... two and on the road...

j o

[TimTyler]

If you can't find Seafoam you can always use expanding foam.

[The Mighty Gryphon]

I recall someone telling me that Seafoam is great stuff...

[Chaos]

Never used it. Seems to be one of the better regarded additives.  Maybe if I got a used vehicle and couldn't get it running right, but MMO  for it's marvelous mystery ingredients and Heet to remove water usually work and are cheaper. 

I may try the expanding foam to plug some leaks.  Do you suppose it should go in the gas tank or the sump?

[K75RT Keith]

I use it on my K at the beginning of the year.  It seems to help clean out what ever gunk has built up in the injectors. Also have added it to the oil in my old bike and taken a long ride before an oil change.  it seemed to work ok cleaning up the sludge from the p.o's poor record of changing oil
   

[johnny]

october special at advance autoparts...

cheveron techeron 2 bottles for 8 dollars...

yeeehaaaa...

j o

[SmilingRide]

I'm still looking to understand the applications of products. Sounds like the Seafoam cleans up a system of its been running rough and is a one-time or occasional major cleanse. The other products in the photo seem for maintenance and making sure the ethanol doesn't junk up your bike in the first place. Interested to hear your experience. Thx.

[Laitch]

Interested to hear your experience. Thx.

I don't use either in my bike and so far, it runs acceptably.

[The Mighty Gryphon]

Two years ago I bought a K100 that had not been used for several years.  It ran, but not very well, it was rough and lacked in power at higher speeds.  It had a few issues with the dreaded sprag.

I did an engine flush with cheap oil and a bottle of SeaFoam, and the sprag has worked properly since without any further attention.   I didn't think the power and roughness was bad enough to justify the effort to pull the injectors and clean them on the bench.  Johnny was pretty high on this Techron stuff and Italian tuneups, so I decided to give it a try.  One bottle through two tanks and the engine had gotten smoother with a marked reduction in handlebar vibration.  A bottle per month through the summer and today the engine has better power and the vibrations are now down to where it's almost as smooth as my K75's.  It starts instantly and has a smooth, steady idle whether cold or hot.

[Laitch]

It starts instantly and has a smooth, steady idle whether cold or hot.

If Gryph says it works, it works. After that ringing endorsement, I'm now considering using it too, if he'd send me a couple of cases.

[The Mighty Gryphon]

Laitch, you're on your own, if you've been good maybe Santa will bring some for you.  Might make a good stocking stuffer. 

Original poster asked about experience.  I was just recounting how it worked in my K100.  Techron gets the varnish out and is less work than pulling the injectors.  If it sounds like I was pleased at how it works, well, I was.   

I recently worked as a mechanic in a boatyard where boats were stored for up to 6 months of the year.  A lot of them use ethanol blend gas, and I spent a lot of time pulling carburetors and cleaning the crap out of them.   I tend to think that modern gas doesn't store as well as earlier blends, and anything that helps minimize the grief that old gas causes is worth using.   

[Laitch]

Laitch, you're on your own, if you've been good maybe Santa will bring some for you.

You don't need to ship me the actually product, Gryph. I'll accept O'Reilly gift cards, to make it easy for you. I'm not that considerate to everybody, although I'm striving to be.

[The Mighty Gryphon]

Well, that attitude will certainly move you closer to the top of Santa's "nice" list.

[Laitch]

Well, that attitude will certainly move you closer to the top of Santa's "nice" list.

Goodness is its own reward but its affect on gasoline residue is not substantiated.

[K1300S]

there are lots of internet opinions on seafoam....everything from total snake oil to holy grail.  i have never used it, nor intend too.

techron on the other hand, works.  i keep a case on hand and use it in all my bmw's.  street cars, race cars and bike.   it will not fix really old and abused injectors, but it will prevent them from getting that way in the first place.

I also use STA-BIL in any gas i won't be burning up in a month.  appears to work as all my gas powered tools and vehicles start right up after winter (or summer in the case of the snowblower) naps.

[Laitch]

The other products in the photo seem for maintenance and making sure the ethanol doesn't junk up your bike in the first place. Interested to hear your experience.

Here's an image of the Sta-bil product I've been using with excellent results for as long as I can remember—admittedly, that can be from two minutes to ±64 years. The main thing is to use the equipment, or replace the treated fuel yearly. My bike gets used daily for six months of the year. My experience with the product is the same as mlytle's.

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