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TECHNICAL MOTOBRICK WRENCHING In Remembrance of Inge K. => Project Custom Motobricks => Topic started by: Oliver on August 19, 2013, 12:34:24 AM
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I recently got this for a sweet deal. It needed some work, I lubed all of the splines, the clutch is great and the gear box is clunky as expected, however the engine is great and other then the fairing being cracked on the side from a spill its in great shape. I will be replacing the rear master brake cylinder, removing the non functioning abs replacing pads and shoes, new k&n air filter and I will either replace the exhaust with an aftermarket, supertrapp luftmeister or staintune, and if I cant find those for a good price ill just cut the exhaust in half and do a little weld job there or remove the muffler add a short pipe and heat wrap it. The fork tubes were pitted so I have a set of replacement forks in amazing condition. So thats that Im going for a more aggressive Tatanka look.
This bike is great I love her. pulls like a train and I have so many extras on this bike and spare luggage to sell or already sold that the job will pay for itself. Here comes a beauty
checklist:
Brat cafe seat welded and fabricated
fairing removal
headlight replacement and mirrors
brake overhaul
clip ons or low renthal bars
new acewell or kono speedo or just remove it entirely
paint job green or black or raw steel or i dont know
tail end = license plate, tail light, front and rear indicators
fork replacement
steel side panels hammered out and painted
wheel powdercoat
If possible new wasp style racing fairing
exhaust replacement
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Last winter I stripped my RT down to a naked bike, removed the ABS, and I'm loving it.
I've thought about getting rid of the speedo too but I recommend you think twice first. It's looks aren't the best but the function and integration is perfectly designed and I know I would miss mine if it were gone. My 50-year old eyes like the big numbers too :)
Good luck with your project!
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Well the thing is the odometer stopped working a bit ago and im noticing the tachometer get weird sometimes. Also its just big and clunky. I know the sounds. But Id like a new one its just that wiring is a bitch but Im stripping this thing down and the original is just gigantic and kind of an eyesore. ha
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Hey oliver. I lived in ftm/estero for years groing up. Good luck on the build.
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If the fairing is in good shape and is going to be for sale I might be interested. Mines a little beat up.
Lot of this came with city cases. That have them and are they available?
Look forward to the build.
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Glad to see someone else has endured these god awful summers. I will soon be replacing the rear master brake cylinder on my bike, just received the brand new magura 12mm replacement from beemerboners I could use some tips for the thread on this particular issue here is the link http://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=4801.0 (http://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=4801.0) any information is helpful
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Replaced old brake cylinder which was disgusting with all of the paint corroded off of it because the rubber boot was ripped and the insides rusted. Looped abs back on itself and routed brake line straight to caliper. will be needing new rear brake line soon. Emptied system of fluid, ones the new pads were put in I refilled the system by myself which I will say is a hell of a job. Here are some pics
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Now Im stopping like a champ in traffic, also changed gear oil today, final drive tomorrow. didnt have enough time before work.
Seat getting built some time next week.
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Why didn't you just remove the ABS module?
I'd be worried about the brake hose integrity as you currently have it connected to the master cylinder. Is there enough slack and freedom of movement to prevent stress when the rear wheel is bouncing up and down?
FYI - Here's what mine looks like with the custom line/hose created after I removed my ABS.
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I wasnt taking off the gas tank so I couldnt get to the pump plug if there was one. is there? Ill be changing my airfilter to a k&n soon so Ill use that time to remove unnecessary plugs.
Yes there is enough slack but that brake hose needs to go anyway so I will be changing out the line soon. Mine doenst connect the way yours does, just two banjo fittings. How much was the custom line?
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Do not do a K&N until you research it here and and the world wide web!
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I went to a quirky, dusty, local brake line shop. I brought the bike and the owner did the work in a little over an hour and it costs me $70.
I remember the days when I was hesitant to take off the tank. I didn't even know how. It's super simple if your fairing is off. Just slide the two clips near the seat out (if they're even installed), unplug the pump connector near the seat, and disconnect the two fuel lines on the front of the tank. The tank slides right off. Three minutes total if your fairing is not in the way.
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Whats so bad about K&N's? I mean so some guy did a test on it... Maybe Im in denial but It really is hard to believe that a a K&n is worse than the stock paper air filters.
Thanks on the gas tank info, Ive been feeling a bit overwhelmed about taking it off knowing how complicated BMW can make simple procedures.
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Please, not another K&N discussion.
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Alright well paper it is.
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Just wanted to show off my friends build and my bike without the seat, did some measurements, many things happening this weekend. seat, forks, alternator rubbers, front brakes, abs removal maybe fairing removal might have to do that later due to slow shipping of parts<div>(http://i42.tinypic.com/3gfad.jpg)
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Need help on some things please give me some input on headlights. I dont know if I should go with a regular classic round headlight, or
These piaa headlights(I think the wiring on this might be a bit difficult also I dont know if these will be effective low beams, there are no high beams) http://www.ebay.com/itm/171099110297?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/171099110297?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
or these black dominator headlights http://www.ebay.com/itm/281115037076?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/281115037076?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
or these ruckus headlights (again wiring may be hard, as well as brackets) http://www.ebay.com/itm/370529627081?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/370529627081?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
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Almost went the rukus route....good luck if you do, just make sure to get the oem's and not the knock offs. Here is the standard shell, powder coated.....still want to lower(eventually remove the cluster)....
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Im also considering a hella light and seeing as both the piaa and hella are single beam lights do you think there is a way by maybe angling it and maybe using a visor to use these as a regular headlight. The bmw k75 have an h4 connector so is there a way to convert that to h3?
lights look nice. Im always trying to go the unconventional route, gives me headache but worth it in the end.
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Im going to go with a regular black and chrome headlight 7 or 8 inches if I can find one but I will be doing a throw back with this bike by using old R/69s headlight mirrors. Ill be painting the bike black with white stripes and going with a very reddish tan seat.
The fog lights I was trying just arent practical but I think doing this back with old school BMW flare will be great
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I like the dual ruckus or dominator if they have high and low beam. What a about a GS light? I wonder if they could be fork mounted?
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The dominators do But Ive seen them on others and they make them look to streetfighterish, Im going for a more vintage look.
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Ohhh well then you might want to talk to Larry. Hes build some Killer K bikes. The Beast is awesome! Its running a modified R69 Headlight.
http://specialks.net/ (http://specialks.net/)
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That is awesome, I've seen an interview with this guy. I think Ill be going with the headlight guard as well as the mirrors, I never noticed them until now on there though. Ill be doing either clip ons(might even turn the clip ons upside down to have an upwards angle) or ultralow renthal bars.
Right now Im wondering about speedometers. Ive heard the only real trouble you have with replacing it is the neutral switch which allows you to start the bike in neutral, people say to fix this you have to run a series of 3 relays. Can someone tell me where these relays would be put?
Im not the most electrically wise person but I learn quickly. One of the other things im wondering about is the ratio that the speedo would need to be at or be set to and how would this work?
Considering Acewell since those are the main ones Ive seen done, anyone know of any good speedos that will work for a K?
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Chopped the frame today and ordered a shit load of parts (keeping those a suprise), more work tomorrow.
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That is awesome, I've seen an interview with this guy. I think Ill be going with the headlight guard as well as the mirrors, I never noticed them until now on there though. Ill be doing either clip ons(might even turn the clip ons upside down to have an upwards angle) or ultralow renthal bars.
Right now Im wondering about speedometers. Ive heard the only real trouble you have with replacing it is the neutral switch which allows you to start the bike in neutral, people say to fix this you have to run a series of 3 relays. Can someone tell me where these relays would be put?
Im not the most electrically wise person but I learn quickly. One of the other things im wondering about is the ratio that the speedo would need to be at or be set to and how would this work?
Considering Acewell since those are the main ones Ive seen done, anyone know of any good speedos that will work for a K?
The tone ring on the final drive that the speedometer uses and the signal it produces doesn't jive with most electronic speedometers. I have read about a circuit that can be built to make it work with most of what on the market I just cant seem to locate a link for it. Larry at specialk might have a link and possibly Maxx Here as he has put a mega squirt on his bike and I think he had to get a pulse that would jive with the Mega Squirt ECM.
Another thing that may be more of a no big deal is the self canceling turn signals. I dont know if the cancel signal originates in the cluster or the ECM.
In the hot rod car world GPS speedometers are getting popular. Quick Google and there seems to be a few available for bikes.
Ohhh now this in interesting! Has Tach and you can use a magnet on the wheel for the speedometer so you dont even have to mess with the BMW signal.
http://trailtech.net/voyager.html (http://trailtech.net/voyager.html)
Actually they have several including some that have the lights for turn signal and Neutral oil and temp.
http://www.trailtech.net/computers.html (http://www.trailtech.net/computers.html)
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Well, I spent a long time looking that up. I need something a bit vintage looking.
Gps are too expensive or they done have neutral, indicator, high beam and oil pressure lights. If all I cared about was speed then I could go with a GPS speedo used on small boats, comes with an antenna though.
I dont want to just cave and get the acewell 2853 but its looking like thats really all thats available, that also has a sensor I can add on. I have seen some others I may do like the ones on DCC and Drag Specialties makes one I just dont know how the sensor works or If I can buy an aftermarket sensor and magnet that will work with it.
Emailed Larry and no reply. If you could find out what that circuit is Id be very thankful, lord knows im looking.
Thanks
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This wasn't the thread I was looking for but it has a lot of info I think you may find helpful. He ended up using a magnetic sensor for the speedo. Hes got diagrams for the indicators. Really one of the nicer "Kafe" builds Ive seen.
http://www.k100-forum.com/t2611p50-my-k100-cafe-racer-project-story (http://www.k100-forum.com/t2611p50-my-k100-cafe-racer-project-story)
Wish the Triple trees were not so UGLY! I'd like to move my switches and put a K1 bar on my bike. Wonder if a R1150RT top plate would work? Like their handle bars and its a nice clean look. Its a telelever fork so no swapping it on a K.
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YEa Im going to wind up grinding everything down. Got Clip ons with risers on the way ( probably will have to machine them as I hear the diameter of the forks is actually 41.3) .
I read that K100 thread like a bible trying to figure out how a new speedo will work. This garage community I am working on my bike at has a lot of talented people all in different garages next door that are all very willing to help out and its great. So Ill be asking the electric guy when I finally do get a speedo. Im looking for something cheaper than the acewell that comes with a magnetic speed sensor to attach.
Right now I need to make some more money for this haha. But its all going better then planned. This seat is coming out really nicely, Ill have pictures when its closer to completion tomorrow. Thanks for all the info Grim!
IF anyone is interested in some K75 parts check my thread in the FS I have the rear crash bars everyone is looking for, a set of tragkorbs, my fairing I need to sell and will go quite cheap because its damaged on the right side. tragkorb racks and a rear fender that holds the license plate. anyway jsut saying its all for sale, PM me for info.
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Seat pan is almost welded up, padding and leather tomorrow as well as the side panels. Gotta give a hand to my friends at E.R.A Fab and Customs where this has been getting done due to my garage being almost non existent and their welcome doors. Anything that was welded is Eric's handywork. It helps to have good peeps in your life.
Here is where we are at: The seat is all aluminum
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This is all Eric's handy work, I am still coming up on the learning curb with welding but he is a genius, He fabricated this headlight envelopment in about 3 hours from a sheet of aluminum.(http://i44.tinypic.com/xc1084.jpg)
Because a lot of the front end parts are all waiting to come in, All of the front end will be started on in a week or so.
Muffler will be chopped for now but soon Id like to do a very short pipe and wrap the headers all the way up until the black tip I plan on putting on from DCC.
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Here it is with the fairing off. Side panels are a bronze grill type thing. The seat cover and foam are going to be fixed up when there is time. I still have to remove the ABS and re do the brakes with new pads and a brake line, then replace the forks, then put on headlight, gaiters, clip ons and move the key ignition. Ive got heaps of school work this week so I hope that all can be done by the end of the week. (http://i42.tinypic.com/2rwm0eh.jpg)
I think Im going to just go with raw aluminum for the gas tank. The seat pan and wheels have to get painted sometime soon too.
I talked to Larry of Special K's about speedometer options and he gave me some great info on speedometers. So thats happening too. stick around
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HAVING TROUBLE BIKE WONT START PLEASE CHECK THIS THREAD http://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=4899.0 (http://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=4899.0)
Replaced brake line with braided steel lines and pads, clip ons new forks and the glorious 7 inch headlight from dcc is all on. removed all componets of abs as well and took out a lot of unnecessary wires. also dropped forks an inch or so. will have better pics soon
I still have a lot more things to do but its lookin good ay?
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HAVING TROUBLE PLEASE CHECK THIS THREAD http://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=4899.0 (http://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=4899.0)
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FIXED. This bike is made to be ridden the way I ride mine. hugging the tank in a tuck.
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Side panels are done!
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Tragically I crashed it a week ago. However it isnt terrible. IM pretty ripped up, missing some skin but I have a new gas tank and foot peg plate on the way.
and thanks to Federal Aid refunds for college I just got a lot of money and this bike will be coming back amazingly and better than ever
Ordered,
Rizoma Mirrors (old ones snapped off on crash)
brembo front brake cylinder and lever from a ducati
tomaselli clutch
Tarozzi CLip ons
Joker machine serrated foot pegs
Koso xr-sr speedometer
Remote reservoir mono shock off of 2012 Ninja (same size thank god)
Pirelli Rosso II rear and Pirelli Angel Front.
Replaced headlight as it was mangled
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Wow!
Glad it wasn't worse! Pushing 50 I decided to stick to full riding gear so I would hopefully avoid the rash. Had enough of that when I was a kid.
Cager get you or solo?
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Solo man my own stupidity. Just turning to hard and hit some gravel.
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D'oh! Glad you're alright. These bikes like to move, I always say I get the same "thrill" on my BSA at 50mph that I get on the BMW at 120mph!! ;-)
looking forward to the rebuild!! :2thumbup:
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Throttle is finally done, (serious work needed to be done to fit grips on slide)
All pieces now ready for installation. Then exhaust, fender and gas tank replacement or fabrication and then tear down for clean and paint.
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Was wonder where you been glad to see your still at it.
Ever get pictures of the fairing?
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I have read about a circuit that can be built to make it work with most of what on the market I just cant seem to locate a link for it.
Linky: http://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=3421.msg27531#msg27531 (http://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=3421.msg27531#msg27531)
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still need the speedometer connected and a bracket made, then headlight and mirrors put on but here are the new bars
tarozzi clip ons
ducati brembo brake
tomaselli clutch
brooks leather grips (which were a bitch to fit on the throttle slide, had to do a lot of fab work for it)
So what do ya think?
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New rear mono shock from a 2013 NINJA 636
welded bracket for top and milled new stud with two different thread sizes on each end for bottom mount.
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Finally have new KOSO xr-SR speedo on. looks gorgeous and functions great.
Tarozzi clip ons
Ducati 916 Brembo brake cylinder
DCC Original 8" Headlight
Rizoma Mirrors (mounted in R69s fashion ;)
Brooks Leather grips
Joker Machine-esque throttle
Tomaselli clutch
New hand switch
Milled triple tree
splines all lubed and clutch in fantastic shape
Still need to:
wash my hands
Mount new rear shock
front and rear fender fabrication
wrap and modify exhaust
mount 50. cal ammo can(s) tragkorbs
Strip new gas tank
paint paint paint
Side panels remade and reinforced with ignition, start, and choke mounted with in.
Seat re upholstered with real leather
Valve clearance check, alternator rebuild, throttle body sync, timing enhanced and overall engine clean up
new front tire and rear if needed
and then a nice good clean and polishing of everything
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So did you have to change your underware when that plate it the tire?
The milling on the triple looks good and I like the minimalist look of the new gage set up.
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No thats just an example of how much I needed to get a new stiffer racing shock. Man it rides so well now. I feel like Im on a cbr when cornering now.
Thanks at our shop No Jokes Garage we have a Bridgeport and just got it working perfect! I will be painting the triple tree and there is still a lot more to be done but I will pass on your compliments to our genius machinist
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hey man awesome build
Ive also been doing my first build of a K75rt and your build has been a huge inspiration for me.
I was wondering a couple things, Where did you find gaiters that would fit the forks? How hard was setting up the speedo? that has by far been the most intimidating part of the build for me, I was considering just abandoning the K75 electrics and having a simple speedo/tact with out any warning lights. But if its doable i would much prefer a fancier instrument cluster
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Thanks for your appreciation very very much. Im still working on my bike, it is getting close to finished, willl post pictures when it gets a bit closer. I will PM you with my Phone number feel free to call for questions
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Still working. Here are pics of new side panels and ignition switch and starter, also just finished the floating rear fender. Let me know what you think.
I am almost done sanding and polishing the new raw aluminum gas tank and the seat will be getting reupholstered soon with a different color marine vinyl that will hold up better than this joanns fabric shit.
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also added monkey nuts, my alternator bushings cup looked like shit (http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac213/oliverinlux/CAM00037.jpg)(http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac213/oliverinlux/CAM00039.jpg)
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Lowered the headlight a bit, Just got new industrial sewing machine at studio so I can redo my seat upholstery. A bit of wiring and a bit more polishing and then the bike is done!! Let me know what ya think y'all
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Great looking bike, Oliver!
Does your shock have two points of contact to the final drive or just one like the stock K-bike?
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no just one. milled a skinnier stud out of the original
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really sweet! :2thumbup:
Where did you find the floating fender btw ?
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I hammered it out and welded it myself, just made a front as well. many new updates will post pictures soon
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BIKE JUST GOT FEATURED ON INAZUMAcafe!!!
http://inazumacafe.blogspot.com/2014/07/readers-rides-k75-clair.html (http://inazumacafe.blogspot.com/2014/07/readers-rides-k75-clair.html)
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this motobricker thinks clair is 100% yeeeehaaaaaaaa...
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Love the polished aluminum tank
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Cool project. This is very close to what I was thinking of doing. My plan is also
to simply cut out the muffler and show off that wheel have you done the exhaust mod yet?
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Really, really like what you have done.
There is something brutally industrial about the look of the K engine that makes these stripped down bikes look so f-ing evil. They have a look you will never get with a British or Japanese engine, not even a v-twin. It's the total disregard for symmetry and the utilization of every bit of space below the tank to pack in the stuff that makes it go. The guys who designed this engine weren't after pretty, they were building a weapon.