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TECHNICAL MOTOBRICK WRENCHING In Remembrance of Inge K. => Project Custom Motobricks => Topic started by: Arthur_229 on January 13, 2019, 01:39:41 PM

Title: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: Arthur_229 on January 13, 2019, 01:39:41 PM
hello,
as said in my introduction that i would start a topic on my k75.

got this 88 k75s off a friend for a bottle of wine. the engine fires up and runs but cant put any gears luckely stuck in neutral. worst case cenario some ebay shopping for a gearbox.

here is a foto with no work started
(http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx245/arthur229/bmw/IMG_20190108_204442_309_zpsdtzcowei.jpg) (http://s760.photobucket.com/user/arthur229/media/bmw/IMG_20190108_204442_309_zpsdtzcowei.jpg.html)


I have been striping her down
(http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx245/arthur229/bmw/DSC_0343_zpsftl4bazc.jpg) (http://s760.photobucket.com/user/arthur229/media/bmw/DSC_0343_zpsftl4bazc.jpg.html)

(http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx245/arthur229/bmw/DSC_0341_zps4mpzvizq.jpg) (http://s760.photobucket.com/user/arthur229/media/bmw/DSC_0341_zps4mpzvizq.jpg.html)

a little problem with the exhaust
(https://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx245/arthur229/bmw/IMG-20190113-WA0006_zpszxga98hw.jpeg) (https://s760.photobucket.com/user/arthur229/media/bmw/IMG-20190113-WA0006_zpszxga98hw.jpeg.html)
a bit rusty

Its going to be a long journey before its back on the road.
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: Laitch on January 13, 2019, 02:20:18 PM
got this 88 k75s off a friend for a bottle of wine. the engine fires up and runs but cant put any gears luckely stuck in neutral. worst case
Do you know if shifting failed while the original owner was riding it? Maybe the clutch isn't disengaging. Check that. Maybe you should warm up the transmission case, open the filler and drain ports, empty whatever is left in the case then refill it with 0.8L of warmed 80w90 trans fluid. Maybe you could gently work at rotating the rear wheel after you do all that, then try shifting. There are a few options left before getting into somewhere you don't need to go, yet.

You probably ought to check the valve clearances, assess the engine's compression and see if you can get the drive train working before you do further stripping of this relic.
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: Arthur_229 on January 13, 2019, 02:29:46 PM
Do you know if shifting failed while the original owner was riding it? Maybe the clutch isn't disengaging. Check that. Maybe you should warm up the transmission case, open the filler and drain ports, empty whatever is left in the case then refill it with 0.8L of warmed 80w90 trans fluid. Maybe you could gently work at rotating the rear wheel after you do all that, then try shifting. There are a few options left before getting into somewhere you don't need to go, yet.

You probably ought to check the valve clearances, assess the engine's compression and see if you can get the drive train working before you do further stripping of this relic.

What I know is that the previous owner let the gearbox loose all the oil and that the clutch died.
He drove the bike from work to home without oil about 10 miles.

Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: Laitch on January 13, 2019, 02:50:08 PM
What I know is that the previous owner let the gearbox loose all the oil and that the clutch died.
He drove the bike from work to home without oil about 10 miles.
:laughing-on-ground:
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: alexg on January 13, 2019, 02:59:58 PM
Probably that did it, but before buying a new gear box, try to put it in gear w/o the engine running. If the thing shifts, there is a chance that the box is ok, and the clutch is stuck due to high humidity; humidity plus clutch pressure might have bonded the friction disk to flywheel with rust. Happens to me every winter, and Michigan in winter is much dryer than the UK.
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: Arthur_229 on January 13, 2019, 03:23:53 PM
greetings...

somebody may have removed the driveshaft to sell on ebay... that and fliuds may be all you need...

j o
Probably that did it, but before buying a new gear box, try to put it in gear w/o the engine running. If the thing shifts, there is a chance that the box is ok, and the clutch is stuck due to high humidity; humidity plus clutch pressure might have bonded the friction disk to flywheel with rust. Happens to me every winter, and Michigan in winter is much dryer than the UK.

Just opened the filler of the gear box and there was alot of creamy gunk
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: Laitch on January 13, 2019, 03:37:18 PM
Just opened the filler of the gear box and there was alot of creamy gunk
Don't eat it, no matter how appealing it is. Clean it out and follow previous instructions.
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: Arthur_229 on January 13, 2019, 04:16:44 PM
greetings...

spread that on crumpets and report back here...

im thinking the twerk converter needs charged...

j o
Will do, I'll tell you all if it needs a bit of sugar or salt

Next time I get free time ill continue the job
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on January 14, 2019, 09:46:10 AM
It sounds like the input and output shafts are ok. 

Is the shift lever moving, or is it stuck?   If it moves but doesn't change gears it's possible that the grub screw has loosened to where the shifter no longer moves the shift drum.  If that is the problem you should be able to fix it in a long day of work. 

I had a very loose grub screw on my first brick, and besides taking about 7 hours to fix it, it wasn't a bad job.  That included lubing the drive shaft, final drive and clutch splines along with the swing arm bearings and putting proper torque on all the fasteners back there. 

It would also be a good time to change the clutch o-ring and possibly the rear main seal on the engine.
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: Arthur_229 on January 18, 2019, 05:36:16 AM
A small update on the gearbox, I drained the gear box of what was left of the oil and on the plug there was bits of metal. So there must be something broken inside. More updates to come as soon as I get more free time. And when trying to move the lever can hear somthing like metel grinding.
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on January 18, 2019, 08:36:03 AM
Is the lever stuck or does it move?   How far does it move?   Proper travel is about 2" or less. 
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: Arthur_229 on January 18, 2019, 08:53:01 AM
Is the lever stuck or does it move?   How far does it move?   Proper travel is about 2" or less.
It doesn't move
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on January 18, 2019, 09:16:01 AM
Okay, it's probably NOT a grub screw problem. 

That may be good news, as that damn screw is a pain in the ass to get installed.   
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: Arthur_229 on March 14, 2019, 07:37:53 AM
A small update, after thinking and plenty research I decided that will be maunting the k1100 gearbox and all of the material required for that mod.

Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: Arthur_229 on April 13, 2019, 07:50:17 AM
Did the valves, they were massavly out f spec now tip-top condition. Soda blasted the engine and sprayed black with red details



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Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: natalena on April 13, 2019, 09:45:14 AM
Looks nice. Did you figure out the transmission issues? With luck, you'll have 2 or 3 sunny days of UK Spring to work on the bike. ;)
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: Arthur_229 on April 13, 2019, 09:48:59 AM
Looks nice. Did you figure out the transmission issues? With luck, you'll have 2 or 3 sunny days of UK Spring to work on the bike. ;)
Didn't bother opening it and just got another gearbox from a k1100
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: Arthur_229 on April 23, 2019, 04:09:10 PM
Another little update
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: szabgab on May 09, 2019, 05:47:28 PM
OK, looks nice. If you plan to turn the bike into a cappuccino, there are people out there hunting for spare parts, gauge clusters, indicators, mirrors, various bits and bobs :)
Title: Re: K75s CR by arthur229
Post by: Arthur_229 on May 18, 2019, 09:07:51 AM
Got a great deal done lately, made my own exhaust manifold, fitted the k1100 gearbox, swing arm and final drive.
And almost forgot the rearsets.