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Offline johnny

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Alternative Brake Pads
« on: July 22, 2013, 07:58:43 PM »
FA018 DESCRIPTION from bobs click here...

EBC pads are made of organic materials mixed with incredibly strong Dupont KEVLAR fibers. They’re SOFTER than stock pads, which means they’re less likely to cause excessive wear to your rotors. They provide exceptional heat dissipation, long wear, and best of all, great performance!

A set of brake pads contains both pads to service ONE caliper. Order two sets if you are servicing brakes on BOTH front calipers (typical).

EBC #FA018 is for FRONT disc brakes on these models:
• K75C through 08/88
• K75S through 09/88
• All K100 models through 09/88
• R80RT 82-84
• R80/R80RT (double rotor) 85-08/88
• R80GS 81-87
• R80ST
• R100/7T 09/80-84
• R100S 09/80->
• R100RS & RT 09/80-08/88

And for REAR disc brakes on these models:
• All K75 models (if disc brake equipped)
• All K100 models
• All K1100 models
• K1200RS through 01/05
• R100RS & RT (if disc brake equipped)
• R1100RS

FA171 DESCRIPTION from bobs click here...

EBC pads are made of organic materials mixed with incredibly strong Dupont KEVLAR fibers. They’re SOFTER than stock pads, which means they’re less likely to cause excessive wear to your rotors. They provide exceptional heat dissipation, long wear, and best of all, great performance!

A set of brake pads contains both pads to service ONE caliper. Order two sets if you are servicing brakes on BOTH front calipers (typical).

EBC #FA171 is for FRONT disc brakes on these models:
• K75 09/88-96
• K75C 09/88-02
• K75S 09/88-95
• K75RT 89-96
• All K100 2-valve models 10/88-89
• R80/R80RT (double rotor) 09/88-95
• R100RS & RT 09/88-95

FA407 DESCRIPTION from bobs click here...

These EBC pads are made of organic materials mixed with incredibly strong Dupont KEVLAR fibers. They’re SOFTER than stock pads, which means they’re less likely to cause excessive wear to your rotors. They provide exceptional heat dissipation, long wear, and best of all, great performance!

A set of brake pads contains both pads to service ONE caliper. Order two sets if you are servicing brakes on BOTH front calipers (typical).

EBC #FA407 is for FRONT brakes on these models:
• R850R, R1100R, R1100RS, R1100RT
• R1150GS (up to 11/2001)
• R1200C (all except Montauk)
• R1100S (up to 11/2000)
• K1, K100RS (4valve)
• K1100RS, K1100LT
• K1200RS (up to 2001)
• K1200LT (up to 10/2000)
• R100R & Mystic 
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Offline F14CRAZY

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Re: Alternative Brake Pads
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2015, 11:22:23 PM »
Are there any pads that don't result in that nasty rusty looking brake dust after riding in the rain?
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Offline jetpoweredmonkey

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Re: Alternative Brake Pads
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2015, 03:11:08 PM »
Data point for the EBC FA018 pads.  I installed a set of these on the rear after wearing through the OEM pads at about 37000 miles.  The rear rotor looked new with absolutely no wear.  After about 3000 more miles, the rotor is showing noticeable wear.  Not super happy about this.  My front rotors still have the OEM pads and are likewise showing only the very tiniest bit of wear.

There is more to the compounding of brake pads than soft/hard.  The OEM pads are much more expensive, but I'm switching back.  Seems like false economy to wear through rotors just to save a few bucks on pads.

P.S.  I see zero brake dust from my OEM pads - but then I wash my bike a lot.   :riding:

Offline beemrdon

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Re: Alternative Brake Pads
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2015, 01:15:23 PM »
Hey F14,

I am using ceramic pads on my K1100 LT
They don't leave any telltale signs of residue anywhere...and they stop super awesome great. I didn't install them myself but rather the PO had them on there when I bought the bike.

My understanding is that the PO changed out the front rotors sometime before I bought it because the front rotors are at about new thickness. The rear rotor has not been changed out yet and the wear is almost at the "change rotor" time. The bike has 74,xxx miles on it.   

*I don't know how long rotors are supposed to last on these bikes. Does anyone else?

As a reference, my 1975 R90/6 has gone around 200,000 miles now and the original front (single and only) rotor is at the point where it could be changed (if I want to). I have used the same Forodo (sp?) pad on there for the last 175,000 miles and it could be changed now or not. I use a lot of engine braking with that bike anyway.   

If anyone is interested in the ceramic pads, I might be able to locate the info.
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Offline The Mighty Gryphon

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Re: Alternative Brake Pads
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2015, 01:28:09 PM »
I am using these pads on my k75

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-1996-BMW-K75RT-Kevlar-Carbon-Front-Rear-Brake-Pads-/131516075180?fits=Make%3ABMW&hash=item1e9ef80cac&vxp=mtr

And these on my K100RS4v

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-1992-BMW-K100RS-16-valve-Kevlar-Carbon-Front-Rear-Brake-Pads-/161709597631?hash=item25a6a4a3bf&vxp=mtr

Total of 10,000 miles on these pads with absolutely no issues other than an occasional squeal with low pressure at slow speeds.  I have seen and measured no wear on the rotors with them, and they don't make a lot of dust with weekly washing.  They have enough stopping power to trigger the ABS on dry pavement(not something I want to experience on a regular basis). 

For under $15 a complete set for front and rear I can't see using anything else.
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Offline jetpoweredmonkey

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Re: Alternative Brake Pads
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2015, 01:55:04 PM »
Thanks, Gryphon - that is a screaming good price and thanks for the input regarding rotor wear.  I think I will give those a try this time.

Offline Farmrjohn

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Re: Alternative Brake Pads
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2017, 05:19:17 PM »
50/50 on starting a new topic or inquiring here.  9 times out of 10 with a 50/50 chance you make the wrong call, so here goes.  I'm looking to replace the rear brake pads on my 94 K75.  The online parts diagrams indicate part 34217657025 is required ans shows for both the front and rear.  Pad 34111454724 for the RT and S is showing unavailable on the parts diagram but the crosscheck link takes it to the 34217657025.  But using the crosscheck link 34112331175 (for a K75S) works for the front but doesn't show the rear but will show for both on the K75S parts diagrams.  Will the alternative pads listed on Ebay etc.
I am using these pads on my k75

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-1996-BMW-K75RT-Kevlar-Carbon-Front-Rear-Brake-Pads-/131516075180?fits=Make%3ABMW&hash=item1e9ef80cac&vxp=mtr
or similar that show for either an RT or S model work also on the basic K75 with ABS? 
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Offline Martin

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Re: Alternative Brake Pads
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2017, 05:30:52 PM »
You have a  rare bike a K74. Originally although the front and rear pads look identical they used different compounds this was due to the tendency for people to lock up the rear brake so a different compound was used. Do you want to use OEM pads as there are lots of good alternatives out there. Gryph is getting good results out of Volar pads really cheap and they perform well. Gryph might give us an update on their performance.
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Offline The Mighty Gryphon

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Re: Alternative Brake Pads
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2017, 06:07:29 PM »
About 20,000+ miles on the  Volar pads on my RT, another 14,000 on the set I put on the RS, and about 5,000 on the K75S. 

So with a total of nearly 40,000 miles on these cheap pads I can say that they stop the bike every time I want them to, they don't tear up the rotors like sintered pads, and they seem to hold up pretty well.  The only downside is that if you don't put some anti-squeal on the back they will squeal with light pressure at low speeds.

Installation can occasionally be a pain in the ass with cheap pads because the backing plates are often stamped with old tooling and are a tiny bit oversize.  Sometimes I have to spend 2 minutes filing the burr off the backing plate to make it fit.   At $6 per caliper vs. whatever BMW is charging, a little time with a file is no big deal.
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Offline Farmrjohn

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Re: Alternative Brake Pads
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2017, 06:31:37 PM »
You have a  rare bike a K74. Originally although the front and rear pads look identical they used different compounds this was due to the tendency for people to lock up the rear brake so a different compound was used. Do you want to use OEM pads as there are lots of good alternatives out there. Gryph is getting good results out of Volar pads really cheap and they perform well. Gryph might give us an update on their performance.
Regards Martin.
K74:  Fixed, it's a K75.  As long as the size/shape are the same, the ABS should help keep from locking the rear if I get carried away with "mis-matched" compounds.  Frugal is always good if it works.
About 20,000+ miles on the  Volar pads on my RT, another 14,000 on the set I put on the RS, and about 5,000 on the K75S. 

So with a total of nearly 40,000 miles on these cheap pads I can say that they stop the bike every time I want them to, they don't tear up the rotors like sintered pads, and they seem to hold up pretty well.  The only downside is that if you don't put some anti-squeal on the back they will squeal with light pressure at low speeds.

Installation can occasionally be a pain in the ass with cheap pads because the backing plates are often stamped with old tooling and are a tiny bit oversize.  Sometimes I have to spend 2 minutes filing the burr off the backing plate to make it fit.   At $6 per caliper vs. whatever BMW is charging, a little time with a file is no big deal.
Thanks, I should be able to file to fit if required.  Good tip on the anti-squeal application, the ones installed at the moment have that squeal "issue".
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