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Surprise Projekt initiated
« on: February 20, 2013, 04:24:05 AM »
I found my bike on its side, knocked over, with a broken fairing.

As I am fixing the cracks from this accident and some from te P.O. it occured to me that I may as well paint the plastics and tank while I am at it.


I am having issues with the pics...
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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2013, 06:18:41 AM »
Now that's not a nice thing to find.....

But, you seem to have found a little bit of silver lining to this cloud - good luck with the repairs and paint (and sorting out pics)
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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2013, 09:57:24 AM »

I found my bike on its side, knocked over, with a broken fairing.

As I am fixing the cracks from this accident and some from te P.O. it occured to me that I may as well paint the plastics and tank while I am at it.


I am having issues with the pics...

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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2013, 11:20:39 PM »

Pics...
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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2013, 11:23:24 PM »

That mirror casing has been epoxied back together.
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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2013, 01:37:20 AM »
You might want to consider resizing your images a little smaller before you post them :=) Around 1024 x 768 pixels is a reasonable size.
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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2013, 08:22:44 PM »

Got it. I need to learn how to do that yet.  :dunno

Now I am ready to choose a paint color.
I have always been a big fan of dark green (I owned a few Kawasakis) and I thought to continue.

The more I think about it though, the more I am drawn to "cop-out" gloss black...

The lines of the fairing don't mix well in contrast with the profile of the bike IMHO,...
Using black would blend its lines in with the profile as a whole.
It would also blend in with the seat and cases...



It also makes the "BMW" marking on the engine stand out more, in a good way.

I never thought I would hear myself saying this, but I am leaning towards light metal flake black undercoat & clear, or clear with a touch of white pearl or dk blue pearl overcoat...


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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2013, 10:34:33 PM »

Paint prep is churning along.
Damn rainy weather dampened my motivation tonight.

Tank              --     the dent is fixed, I need to prep the cap, the paint is abraded.
Fairing           --    the upper main is repaired and abraded
                    --     the sides are both sound, repaired and abraded
                    --     the lower radiator shroud needs some hand sanding to get some of the crevasses abraded
                    --     the mirrors are both repaired and abraded
Tail               --     ding repaired and abraded (that thing is way heavier than I thought it would be)
Front fenders  --     abraded

Parts I have yet to sand but are removed and prepped,
Side Panels
Windshield Mount Plate
Dash Upper and Sides

Parts to add?
tragkorb Lid?  Maybe later...

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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2013, 09:12:15 PM »

I need to get to the paint shop and get grease and wax remover and tack cloths.
I need to build a quick plastic shroud to paint within.
I am on schedule to spray primer this weekend.

13 pieces to shoot.

 
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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2013, 09:31:58 PM »
Knee dents before the Bondo. Got it to where I could not find it by touch.
I am using black, so the flaws are going to really, really show. Oh F' oh well.

I have only ever used rattle cans in the past. Under and overcoats, wet sanding and buffing. I thought I had great results. This is my first venture into catalizing paints via sprayers. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2013, 09:34:16 PM »
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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2013, 09:43:33 PM »
Hey, Q:

If you want to use that tank hanger I told you about then I can probably swing by and drop if off tomorrow afternoon on my way home from picking up some parts at Ride West.  3:30 or later, right?
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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2013, 09:54:40 PM »

Perfect !!
Thanks Dr. D.
That reminds me that I haven't prepped the fuel cap.

!4 parts to shoot then.
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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2013, 09:53:37 AM »

Hey Duck, I will check my phone when I get home today.
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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2013, 11:33:14 PM »

There is not more to do than to just go head and shoot primer.
As hard as I try to find some reason to stress about something simple... there it is.
Out I go now to shoot paint thinner. It will clean out the gun, and get me some left seat time to boot.
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2013, 04:25:29 PM »

Wow, did I learn a lot today.

My "Paintbooth" worked, but was way too cramped.
I should figure out a better way such as doing two separate batches rather than trying to squeeze in and around all those parts.
The paint remover heat gun worked wonderfully as a space heater.
The fan was just right.
The material was mixed too thick initially for the size tip I have.
The reducer thinned it out well.
The pressure matters.
I am calling my Car Painter friend to shamelessly ask his assistance for the color shoot. I won't feel badly about it since I went the distance on the primer coat. I have no problem helping folks who have helped themselves first.

After shooting, I cleaned the equipment out and noticed the fuel cap that I had forgotten.
Happens every time right?

Cleaned up again and took off the mask. Put some tools away and thought to get a pic or two for the forum.
Holy Crap! The fumes in there were powerfully overwhelming. I got two pics and bailed on the camera session. Had to go and get some fresh air.
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2013, 05:40:30 PM »

I got them sprayed.
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2013, 08:00:13 PM »

After a few more hours of drying time, I will go at the surfaces with 600 grit. Then decide to go for another coat of primer or not. Guess it will depend on how deep the imperfections were and how much material needed to be removed.
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2013, 12:11:26 AM »

Got the parts in the bathroom for the heat and vent fan for curing. It was 50 degrees F' out in the garage without the plastic enclosure. Off-gasing really smells.
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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2013, 12:22:48 AM »
I am not unhappy with the results.
I decided to not go crazy with multiple coats and sanding of the primer to get closer to perfection.
I will "de-bur" the coat with 600 wet and shoot for "reasonably smooth" as opposed to "perfect" as far as the small pits in the finish are concerned.
Now I must pony up the 300 or so duckets for the color and clear coat.  :loco:
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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2013, 06:58:32 PM »

Paint shop guys called me out for admitting that I planned to short cut the primer sanding steps. I top coated and 600 grit wet sanded through the primer in spots. Ergo I must re-spray primer this next weekend. I will thin the mix out much more so that it will go on flatter and smoother. In the mean time (and I do mean 'mean' time), it is out for hours more wet sanding 'til dark when I move indoors to the shower to continue hand sanding parts 'til I can't s(t)and no more...
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2013, 09:03:34 AM »

All of the sanding I have done these past two evenings has made one thing evident. The post painted parts that stayed in the plastic tent were oversprayed and have needed, presumeably, much more sanding than the forgotten part that was sprayed alone. The fuel cap that I did after the fact had a finish that was "glossy" and smooth compared to all the rest of the parts.

I want now to find a strategy such as part spray and remove, or some type of air/overspray evacuation to confront this. I do want to be considerate to the neighbors though for the fumes. I do also need to be careful of airborne dust particulate.

Any experience/ideas other than take it to a professional?
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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2013, 06:51:50 PM »

Just bought paint.

I misunderstood the process and therefore needed to do some thinking and imagining for some time over a pile of paint color cards and coffee.

It took a while to figure out the differences in the formulas as there were at least 30 different "blacks" to choose from. I had to stare at them in different lights for the better part of an hour. I wanted the color to seem basic in low light for our cloudy Seattle days, but change slightly when the sun came out. Though I was careful to keep the "glitz" light as opposed to "Vegas". I wanted dark blue pearl and light metalic flake.

I finally settled on a Mazda "Black Pearl" paint that cost a low to medium $90.oo a pint.
The clerk showed me the ingredients and I was pleasantly surprised.
It had dark blue pearl and medium metal flake and was tinted with blue and red.

Other bonuses;
There is no hardener requirement, so I can take my time without the worry of material curing in the gun. I had worried about needing to prep most of the parts for simultaneous shooting, subjecting the parts to overspray. Since there is no "pot-life" on the color paint, I may shoot parts one or two at a time.

I am now hiding in my room afraid to go out and try the new LPHV gravity feed. I got some apprehension. Guess there is nothing to it 'cept to go out and do it. I will start with the radiator cover. Least visible.

 :loco: :eek2:

Maybe a shot 'o bourbon or two.
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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2013, 03:45:04 AM »
painted 7 of 14 parts...
4 will be fine, 3 need help. By help I mean repainting...
Do not use the gun to blow dry areas that are running with metallic pearl paints. It will result in some pretty serious patterning as exempified in the second pic below. Apparently the flake lays a certain way and can be adversly affected by gun angle and distance from the work as well as by pressure. Trigger the paint before you hit the part to avoid splotching. Don't miss areas altogether either...

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Re: Surprise Projekt initiated
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2013, 08:00:46 AM »
Qdude -- Thanks for sharing your experience, much appreciated.                Bill
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