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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #75 on: September 03, 2019, 11:16:59 AM »
Try this shortcut before dismantling the left switch. With the switch removed you will see where the blue/brown wire has been soldered  at the back. With a test light clip connected well to the battery negative post, touch the probe to the blue/brown soldered spot.

all flash, just like if I use the hazard switch.

 Scratch it well for a good contact, or with the probe flat for a longer contact area. The left indicators might now work, then you know that the left switch has failed to provide earth and you need to dismantle it. The help of the probe might even shake things up a bit for the switch. Try with the probe and pressing the switch.


no effect, all flash

 No luck first time,  give it a few goes. Or even better, a jumper wire with a fuse.
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #76 on: September 03, 2019, 01:16:05 PM »
good [and bad] news
while poking around under the tank I  discovered  the ground bolt attached to the frame .Never saw it as a ton of wires were covering it.  took it off and cleaned the ring terminals and frame, turn whack seems to be fixed.

unfortunately moto will not start. it cranks, appears to get fuel to the rail, has spark, but plugs appear to be dry.It started fine before I tried to fix the blinkers.
 at least I can be safe in my shed with functional blinkers. :laitch
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #77 on: September 03, 2019, 01:58:16 PM »
at least I can be safe in my shed with functional blinkers. :laitch
Shed safety is important!
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #78 on: September 03, 2019, 02:04:40 PM »
Shed safety is important!
sure is
will you cast the runes for this new issue. we have a rare week with no rain here on the panhandle as Dorian seems to be using up all the water vapor. looks to be weakening and staying out to sea for awhile.
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #79 on: September 03, 2019, 02:17:18 PM »
Go back and make absolutely sure you reconnected every brown wire to the screw under the tank.

I can recall someone who had one of the wires get under a cable.  Took him an entire weekend to find it.
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #80 on: September 03, 2019, 02:52:50 PM »
Go back and make absolutely sure you reconnected every brown wire to the screw under the tank.

I can recall someone who had one of the wires get under a cable.  Took him an entire weekend to find it.
I checked pretty good as  I had left one off so I  triple checked. but will check again when I get the tank off again.
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #81 on: September 03, 2019, 06:32:40 PM »
Does the horn work?

Regardless, swap the relays back again, give the pins a clean first.

No luck, push them in and out a few times.
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #82 on: September 03, 2019, 07:27:50 PM »
Does the horn work?

Regardless, swap the relays back again, give the pins a clean first.

No luck, push them in and out a few times.
yes, horn works
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #83 on: September 03, 2019, 08:37:44 PM »
will you cast the runes for this new issue.
I've returned them to Banggood's wiccan supply division for a refund. I never should have opted for a cheap set.
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #84 on: September 04, 2019, 09:43:19 AM »
I've returned them to Banggood's wiccan supply division for a refund. I never should have opted for a cheap set.
teaser
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #85 on: September 04, 2019, 10:39:04 AM »
went out this morning to see if I can figger out the no start . engine turns over fine, but won't fire. Was going to pull the tank to check the relays, and when I pulled the fuel line to the rail, no gas came out. Hit the starter button, still no gas. If I remember correctly, fuel is supposed to squirt out then run until you plug it up. there is gas in the tank, but it's not full. moto is on the side stand. I tried putting more gas in to make sure low fuel wasn't the issue. still no fuel out of line?>??????this bike ran fine before I started monkeying around to fix the blinkers
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #86 on: September 04, 2019, 10:53:08 AM »
If the pump is heard running for a second when you turn the ignition to off, maybe you have swapped the return and supply hoses at their connections on the underside of the tank. Shifting the tank during emotional maelstrom might have decoupled internal lines, too.
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #87 on: September 04, 2019, 11:30:06 AM »
I wasn't hearing the pump, so I checked the fuses. #6 was blown, replaced it and she started right up. Now the blinkers work and the bike runs. so to recap:

Blinker whack appears to have been caused by a bad ground at the location under the tank.
No start from blown #6 fuse. probably caused by shorting a wire during testing.

thanks everyone for your help.I'm going riding  :1thumbup
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #88 on: September 04, 2019, 11:35:49 AM »
greetings...

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one of these days you moes will come to realize its not always the fore pin... sometimes its the fuses... dont doubt me...


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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #89 on: September 04, 2019, 11:38:25 AM »
 :1thumbup

Thank God this thread has ended!
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #90 on: September 04, 2019, 12:36:17 PM »
:1thumbup

Thank God this thread has ended!
never say never :blaaa
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #91 on: September 08, 2019, 01:40:52 AM »
It's not as long as mine...lol
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #92 on: September 14, 2019, 01:06:33 PM »
worked for a few days and now the same whack is back. :laitch
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #93 on: September 14, 2019, 08:58:59 PM »
Two days ago I had the first problem after two years of bricking. Similar to your bike the indicators only worked while the buttons were pressed, but they flashed. Replacing the fuses fixed the problem for a day. Cleaning the same fuses with a tooth brush and spray can of electrical cleaner then fixed it.

Maybe clean the fuses and earth's again,  and the other connectors while you're in there.
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #94 on: September 18, 2019, 09:01:00 AM »
I was just listing the OEM part number. $50. plus shipping for it.
I'll buy it so I can eliminate the flasher as being the issue. pm'd you but didn't get a response yet.
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #96 on: September 19, 2019, 10:02:16 AM »
thanks Volador, I rode last night and was able to get the signals to work by repeatedly mashing the buttons. I'm going to try taking the switches apart and cleaning them really good , which I haven't done,before I buy the flasher.
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #97 on: September 25, 2019, 06:50:08 AM »
I'm back from a couple of weeks in Europe. PM sent.
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #98 on: September 29, 2019, 09:50:32 AM »
went for a ride yesterday and signals worked perfectly??? Was  that because it was national beer day? I did enjoy a few from a Sweetwater Tackle box, the mango kush was delish. this intermittent wack is frustrating. Still havent taken apart the switches, but now that they are working...
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Re: Turn signal whack revisited
« Reply #99 on: September 29, 2019, 12:12:18 PM »
I don't know why you haven't gone in the switches.  One screw holds them on the bars, and you don't have to remove them to get to the guts for cleaning.
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  • '91K100RS White/Blue
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'91 K100RS16V "Moby Brick Too"

Past:
'94 K75RT "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS"
'92 K100RS16V "Moby Brick" (RIP, deceased in a vehicular assault)
'94 K75S Special Edition Dakar Yellow "Cheetos"
'89 K100RS Special Edition "Special Ed"

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