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Offline Jnclem

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Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« on: August 21, 2019, 08:32:08 AM »
Could someone with a metallic blue and pearl white special edition K100RS, mine is a 1989, verify the paint color code from their bike. The placard under the seat on mine just says Kit 650. Is there another way to find the color codes? Maybe from the vin #?
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2019, 09:15:22 AM »
Looking here it seems the white is Mother of Pearl White (Metallic) 137, I could not find the blue but maybe someone else can help you there.
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2019, 12:37:34 PM »
Pearl silver 240 and Bermuda blue 225
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2019, 12:57:30 PM »
Pearl silver 240 and Bermuda blue 225

Wow, now that's an entirely different number than I had seen anywhere else. All mine says is Kit 650, and I have no idea what that means.
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2019, 03:11:23 PM »
greetings...

poast a photo of where is says kit 650...

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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2019, 03:37:02 PM »
650 is the color scheme which translates to Pearl silver AND Bermuda blue.  The color scheme can include things like pinstripe colors and two tone paint jobs.  240 and 225 are the actual paint codes for the colors in the paint scheme. 
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2019, 06:33:08 PM »
650 is the color scheme which translates to Pearl silver AND Bermuda blue.  The color scheme can include things like pinstripe colors and two tone paint jobs.  240 and 225 are the actual paint codes for the colors in the paint scheme.

I talked to BMW Denver today, and they could tell from the Vin that 650 was a two tone code. But on the parts fiche it says 225 for the blue, which is correct, and Mother of Pearl White 137 for the white. You may very well be right, but if so, the fiche is wrong, and it wouldn't be the first time.
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2019, 06:51:20 PM »
greetings...

poast a photo of where is says kit 650...

ridor mag

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Here is a picture of the code for Johnny, and some info on Mother of Pearl White from BM Bikes linking it to #650.

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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2019, 06:52:54 PM »
Info from BM Bikes on MoP White
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2019, 06:54:37 PM »
Oops. Double pics. Anyway, and here is what they sent for MoP White.
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2019, 07:26:44 PM »
greetings...

i already figgered out what 650 means...

i was trying to figger out what kit means...

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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2019, 07:54:03 PM »
Oops. Double pics. Anyway, and here is what they sent for MoP White.
Maybe the order was packed on a Friday or Monday. Maybe you need to shake hell out of it.
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2019, 09:20:10 PM »
Maybe the order was packed on a Friday or Monday. Maybe you need to shake hell out of it.

I shook it for a looooong time, and even stirred it. They messed up. Iím talking to them and they are showing signs of making it right.
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2019, 09:21:54 PM »
greetings...

i already figgered out what 650 means...

i was trying to figger out what kit means...

j o

Good question. I think it is a number that gathers several paint numbers together for one bike. As was stated earlier, includes main color, trim color, even pinstripe colors. Thatís my best guess.
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2019, 09:43:05 PM »
greetings...

where does it say kit... show me of a photo where it says kit...


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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2019, 11:25:08 PM »
greetings...

where does it say kit... show me of a photo where it says kit...

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Not on the bike. It was one of the 4 million places I was looking up the code to see what it meant. You can ignore the word kit. You might sleep better now.
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2019, 12:27:58 AM »
greetings...
where does it say kit... show me of a photo where it says kit...
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Not on the bike. It was one of the 4 million places I was looking up the code to see what it meant.
. . .  on mine just says Kit 650 . . .
You wrote it was on the bike. Own up.

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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2019, 09:11:32 PM »
Wow. You guys are really fixated on the kit thing. Yes, I did write that and I was wrong. I donít remember where I read that, but I was thinking it was on the placard. It wasn't. Itís irrelevant to the question of what the colors are that are represented by the number 650. I make lots of mistakes. This will no doubt not be my last. Thanks for the helpful comments.
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2019, 11:58:43 PM »
I went to my favorite paint guys today(NCS-National Coatings and Supplies) for the paint to touch up the "new" K100RS SE taking up space in the garage. 

After a half hour search of their database they finally found the formula for 137 Peralmutt and 225 Bermuda Blue.  The Peralmutt is a tri-coat finish, with a white base coat and a translucent mid coat with a gold accent.  The paint in your photo looks a lot like what they mixed for me.

I suspect that your paint will look a lot different when it is reduced and a couple light coats are laid down on the base coat.  I now realize where the slight amber tint comes from in the paint when seen from the right angle.

Tri-coat finishes are tough to do right.  You need to do a "let down" card with different amounts of mid coat with half the card clear coated so you can determine how much mid you need to apply to get the correct color match.  BMW used to sell those cards ready made according to the parts fiche, but no longer.  Now you have to make your own.  This link describes two ways to do it.  I use the second method with a single panel.  I also mask half the panel when I clear coat it so I have an actual mid coat sample to match as I paint.  For My panels I use an 8x11 piece of aluminum roof flashing.

https://www.bodyshopbusiness.com/pearl-tricoat-refinishing-made-easy/
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2019, 09:51:10 AM »
I went to my favorite paint guys today(NCS-National Coatings and Supplies) for the paint to touch up the "new" K100RS SE taking up space in the garage. 

After a half hour search of their database they finally found the formula for 137 Peralmutt and 225 Bermuda Blue.  The Peralmutt is a tri-coat finish, with a white base coat and a translucent mid coat with a gold accent.  The paint in your photo looks a lot like what they mixed for me.

I suspect that your paint will look a lot different when it is reduced and a couple light coats are laid down on the base coat.  I now realize where the slight amber tint comes from in the paint when seen from the right angle.

Well that's interesting. So did your paint supplier give you just one container of mixed paint, or three parts? It would seem that this kind of paint would simply not lend itself to a simple application with a touch up brush or swab. What I got came in a typical touch up kit. One bottle of paint, one bottle of a chemical to remove excess, and a few tiny paint swabs. Maybe that simply wonít work for this pearl paint. Iím no paint expert - obviously- and I donít have a sprayer. I was just looking for a way to cover small chips.

When you say ďreduced,Ē I assume you are talking about thinning it a bit and trying to get it to a close match. On areas that have gone through the base, Iím not sure what would make for a good base coat either. Also, they didnít provide any clear coat for it, although I do have some from some other touch up paints that I have. Iíd rather just leave it alone than to screw it up more with my attempts to paint it.

Tri-coat finishes are tough to do right.  You need to do a "let down" card with different amounts of mid coat with half the card clear coated so you can determine how much mid you need to apply to get the correct color match.  BMW used to sell those cards ready made according to the parts fiche, but no longer.  Now you have to make your own.  This link describes two ways to do it.  I use the second method with a single panel.  I also mask half the panel when I clear coat it so I have an actual mid coat sample to match as I paint.  For My panels I use an 8x11 piece of aluminum roof flashing.

https://www.bodyshopbusiness.com/pearl-tricoat-refinishing-made-easy/
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2019, 10:44:33 AM »
If all you got was the mid coat and swabs to apply, I would guess that it won't work.  You need a base coat under the mid, because that's where the white comes from.  The mid coat adds the pearl and the gold tint that comes out at the right angle.  The mid coats should be fairly thin so the base can show through.

Yes, reduction is the correct term for thinning the paint.  You are reducing the viscosity. 

Are you trying for a show bike or just a 10 footer?

Depending on where and how big the chips are, you might be able to get by with a paint pen.  Something in a white metallic or pearl might work.  I painted my 16V RS, the one in my avatar, with Ford tricoat Platinum, color code UG, which, except for a slightly larger flake(and the missing gold tint) isn't far off the white pearl on the Special Edition.  It's a current Ford color, so it should be possible to get a paint pen with that color.  I would think it would be okay for chips smaller than 1/8" down low on the bike like your typical stone chips on the radiator and lower fairings.  Not sure how it would look on the tank or the upper fairing, though.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Color code for K100RS Special Edition
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2019, 05:04:00 PM »
If all you got was the mid coat and swabs to apply, I would guess that it won't work.  You need a base coat under the mid, because that's where the white comes from.  The mid coat adds the pearl and the gold tint that comes out at the right angle.  The mid coats should be fairly thin so the base can show through.

Yes, reduction is the correct term for thinning the paint.  You are reducing the viscosity. 

Are you trying for a show bike or just a 10 footer?

Depending on where and how big the chips are, you might be able to get by with a paint pen.  Something in a white metallic or pearl might work.  I painted my 16V RS, the one in my avatar, with Ford tricoat Platinum, color code UG, which, except for a slightly larger flake(and the missing gold tint) isn't far off the white pearl on the Special Edition.  It's a current Ford color, so it should be possible to get a paint pen with that color.  I would think it would be okay for chips smaller than 1/8" down low on the bike like your typical stone chips on the radiator and lower fairings.  Not sure how it would look on the tank or the upper fairing, though.

Hope this helps.

Yup, that helps, and I think that is exactly what happened - they sent the mid coat. I tried reducing it and putting it over some white that I have, just to see what would happen, and I can see how the whole thing is supposed to work. I have been going back and forth with Color N Drive for some time now and the communication is just going in circles. They have asked me for pictures repeatedly, and have asked for the color code, #137, over and over. I think they are just trying to wear me out, and they have succeeded. I won't be doing business with them again. They advertise themselves as a BMW paint specialist, and since they are in Germany... Oh well. Live and learn.

I think my next step will be to go price some touch up from our local body place to see what they could come up with, or I'll look for a metallic white like you suggested. I'm not looking for show quality, I'm a rider, however the bike looks so good that I do want to deal with the small chips. Most of them are on the chin faring. The metallic blue they sent is plenty close enough for what I need.

It is an interesting paint, and that subtle amber sheen is very eye catching. But I'm not looking to repaint, just keep it looking as good as I can. Thanks for the helpful responses.
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