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« on: August 13, 2019, 01:09:43 PM »
tragkorbs and 22litre top box K75. Are there any difference between ‘1st generation’ ones, and ‘ 2nd generation’ ones? as a set has come up. My bikes an 86.
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Re: Storage
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2019, 01:45:32 PM »
As far as I can tell, both generations hang on the same mounts.  The difference seems to be the handles and which way the locks face.  Gen 1 faces in and gen 2 faces out.
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2019, 02:47:43 PM »
Rectangular upward facing locks on Gen1; cylindrical inward facing locks on Gen 2; cylindrical outward facing locks and larger interior volume on Gen 3. Ted Verrill explains more here.
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Re: Storage
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2019, 03:35:36 PM »
I've got two 22Lt top boxes, one has a plastic hinge similar to the tragkorb hinge. The other one has a metal hinge which appears to be a better proposition.
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Re: Storage
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2019, 02:22:24 AM »
Rectangular upward facing locks on Gen1; cylindrical inward facing locks on Gen 2; cylindrical outward facing locks and larger interior volume on Gen 3. Ted Verrill explains more here.
Thanks. Great link.
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Re: Storage
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2019, 02:24:15 AM »
My bike came with the gen 1 strays. I was after the 22 litre top box. I’m not too bothered about the side cases, as the ones that came with the bike are ok
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2019, 07:56:07 AM »
I was after the 22 litre top box.
There seems to be only one version (generation) of the iconic 22lt top case. Mine and all the examples I've seen in original condition have metal exterior cover hinges and locking, cylindrical push-button–operated latches that hook to wire bails attached to the ceiling of their covers. I'd like to see an example of an original 22lt case with a plastic side case–style hinge. That seems like a bodge to me. Maybe Martin will post a photo of his.
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Re: Storage
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2019, 09:37:02 AM »
Is this it?
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2019, 09:46:49 AM »
That's it. It looks like it has its locking pin. Do you have the mounting plate that fits on the rack? That is a necessary part.
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Re: Storage
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2019, 09:48:25 AM »
That's it. It looks like it has its locking pin. Do you have the mounting plate that fits on the rack? That is a necessary part.
dunno if it comes with it. I can soon knock something up, I expect.
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Re: Storage
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2019, 09:56:54 AM »
Does anyone have a pic of the mounting plate please?
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Re: Storage
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2019, 10:04:27 AM »
This.
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Re: Storage
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2019, 12:27:57 PM »
This.
Thanks. How does it mount onto the rack then?
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Re: Storage
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2019, 12:30:56 PM »
This is the This of the previous post after magnification. Knock that out in a couple of minutes using an old biscuit tin.
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How does it mount onto the rack then?
It snaps into place on a rack designed to accommodate it.
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Re: Storage
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2019, 12:32:06 PM »
 The mounting plate fits under the OEM luggage rack. The box is then held on by the twist lock pin inside the box,
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2019, 12:32:39 PM »
This is the This of the previous post after magnification. Knock that out in a couple of minutes using an old biscuit tin.
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thanks. Anymore info on it would be appreciated.
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2019, 12:33:45 PM »
The mounting plate fits under the OEM luggage rack. The box is then held on by the twist lock pin inside the box,
ah ok. Do I need this plate and a special pin of some sort?
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2019, 12:42:14 PM »
This.
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2019, 12:44:01 PM »
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Re: Storage
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2019, 12:50:38 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2019, 01:15:10 PM »
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Indeed. If that can't be reproduced at a fraction of its cost by one of Her Magesty's loyal subjects using tin snips, a biscuit tin and a teacup full of spliffs, the world is indeed off its axis.
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Re: Storage
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2019, 02:03:17 PM »
As per requested, the first one I bought has a manufacture date August 1985. I replaced four of the original rivets with bolts due to the plastic tab inside the box that holds the lid restraint system being broken off. I also added a bit off para cord as a precaution. The hinge looks to be original it has a metal reinforcing strip on the inside of the box to stop the rivets pulling through, this strip is not on the later box. The second top box with the metal hinge was manufactured in May 1986. A mate has a couple of 22Lt boxes but I believe they are a lot later in manufacture, I'll check when I can.
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Re: Storage
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2019, 02:05:00 PM »
Indeed. If that can't be reproduced at a fraction of its cost by one of Her Magesty's loyal subjects using tin snips, a biscuit tin and a teacup full of spliffs, the world is indeed off its axis.
I don’t smoke tobacco and paper. It can give people cancer, even over here!
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2019, 02:50:40 PM »
As per requested, the first one I bought has a manufacture date August 1985. I replaced four of the original rivets with bolts due to the plastic tab inside the box that holds the lid restraint system being broken off. I also added a bit off para cord as a precaution. The hinge looks to be original it has a metal reinforcing strip on the inside of the box to stop the rivets pulling through, this strip is not on the later box. The second top box with the metal hinge was manufactured in May 1986. A mate has a couple of 22Lt boxes but I believe they are a lot later in manufacture, I'll check when I can.
Regards Martin.
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Thanks . Great pics.
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