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Offline david32knyte

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Certificate of Conformity - HELP!
« on: March 21, 2019, 05:17:27 AM »
Dear fellow Motobrickers,

Some of you may know that in London, UK, they have introduced a ULEZ - Ultra low emissions zone.

This means older bikes (I have a 1985 K100) now have to pay 12.50 to go in to the centre of London - This scheme is also being rolled out further 2012.

Turns out there is a loop hole for some bikes - If you have a low NOx (g/km or g/kWh) emissions date recorded on your V5 (Logbook / doc of ownership)

Naturally older bike do not have this recorded - In the old days no-one cared.

This level can be found on the BMW COC (Certificate of Conformity)

Does anyone wither know what this NOx level is? OR have a COC for a K100 of any variety? As presume all are similar.

Many thanks All

David


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Re: Certificate of Conformity - HELP!
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2019, 07:05:31 AM »
You'll probably need to have your moto's emissions analyzed by somebody certified for that purpose and pay them for the service. Establish with the Ministry if that will be acceptable. Compare the price of testing with the cost of the ULRZ fee. I've found nothing in old records indicating N2O testing was recorded for these motos.
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Re: Certificate of Conformity - HELP!
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2019, 07:16:25 AM »
Hi Laitch
Yes I'm sure you're right.
However TFL (Transport of London) have stated that they require manufacturers COC.
So looking like need to speak to BMW UK.
Will research as to whether TFL will accept a new test certificate.
MAny thanks
DAvid

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Re: Certificate of Conformity - HELP!
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2019, 07:52:49 AM »
greetings...

i can ping you a certificate of whackformity after you click the mop...

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Re: Certificate of Conformity - HELP!
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2019, 08:01:15 AM »
If this is going to be something new, I'd be willing to bet that BMW will have to start measuring and creating a COC certificate for all new bikes/cars, etc.... in the future.
Kind of like when they had to make a "U.S." California emissions variant of the bikes with the cat converter and O2 sensor, that wasn't required anywhere else.

Makes me wonder if the dealers there will start offering the certificate with a "tune up" that would be valid for x number of years and then a re-test for those bike that could be certified.
It also wouldn't surprise me if the older bikes would not pass the test anyway without major modification, like adding a cat converter system/setup new fi controller, etc... That would definately be cost prohibitive.

Like Laitch mentioned it may be cheaper just to pay the tax, depending on how often you have to pay it --- per year I'm guessing.

I'm surprised that the older bikes are not automatically grandfathered in..... like they are here in the states.
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Re: Certificate of Conformity - HELP!
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2019, 08:44:49 AM »
Hi Scott
RE: Grandfathered

They are.
Any vehicle over 40 years old is MOT, tax & emissions exempted.

I have to wait 7 years for the K to be clear.
I've got a bunch of older bikes.  Just preparing a 1976 Kawa Z1000 A1 for the job.
So maybe will mothball the K till 2025 - If I'm still in the riding bikes business by then!
David

 


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Re: Certificate of Conformity - HELP!
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2019, 08:46:46 AM »
Hi Johnny

RE: Certificate

That would be great if you could email me a copy of one so can see what the score is.

My email is david.weare@gmail.com

Thanks - Glad there are still K experts out there.

David

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Re: Certificate of Conformity - HELP!
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2019, 09:53:32 AM »
greetings...

thats whack...

of course.... i will post it up right here after you click the mop...

just need nice photo of your moto and the vin...

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Re: Certificate of Conformity - HELP!
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2019, 09:54:16 AM »
So looking like need to speak to BMW UK.
Will research as to whether TFL will accept a new test certificate.
No COCs issued by BMW before 2003. If you find out differently, please post to this thread the process for obtaining one.

Clicking the mop might be the only way.
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Re: Certificate of Conformity - HELP!
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2019, 11:03:40 AM »
Hi Johnny

Here a pic of the K100 with Sprint fglass RS style fairing.  (Made in Wiltshire, UK)

VIN will have to wait till I get home tonight.

Thanks

PS. What does click the mop mean?

David


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Re: Certificate of Conformity - HELP!
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2019, 12:28:52 PM »
That's a dandy looking fairing. Nice!
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Re: Certificate of Conformity - HELP!
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2019, 08:14:50 AM »
Hi Johnny

RE: Certificate

That would be great if you could email me a copy of one so can see what the score is.

My email is david.weare@gmail.com

has anyone obtained this information as of yet?

it would be nice to know if the conformity information worked on the ULEZ charge

kind regards 


Thanks - Glad there are still K experts out there.

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