Sorry to rain on your parade. Look at it this way, carabiners were kool 20 or 30 years ago when they were the real Macoy! Now it is just another piece o crap that everybody feels they need to have.........just to hang their keys on if nothing else. Originally designed to hold a climber and his gear to the side of a cliff, the pedestrian ones are designed to separate you from a a few bucks in your wallet. And maybe lock a helmet to your motorcycle if your willing to spring for the locking version........very kool!