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maru labs BEP3.0
« on: July 20, 2018, 06:49:35 AM »
hey,

Getting closer to the end of my K100 project.
I am installing a BEP3.0 but ....
The BEP 3.0 has several switches, i know the function of every switch but not the position they need to be in.
Does anyone have any idea what position the switches need to be in for choke, LED blinkers, fuel level and bulbtester.
for example disable choke, switch up or down??
Can't find any info about this.

thanks, M
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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2018, 07:43:11 AM »
greetings...

1) read the documentation... all of it...

2) search bep3 on this forum... dont be lazy...

3) if you exhaust all posibilities and still are a failure... ask again...

4) did you do this... did you click that mop...

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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2018, 08:30:36 AM »
hey,

Getting closer to the end of my K100 project.
I am installing a BEP3.0 but ....
The BEP 3.0 has several switches, i know the function of every switch but not the position they need to be in.
Does anyone have any idea what position the switches need to be in for choke, LED blinkers, fuel level and bulbtester.
for example disable choke, switch up or down??
Can't find any info about this.

thanks, M
Hi,

It might be your use the the word "switches" that is misleading.  The BEP 3.0 is a sealed unit and there are no switches for the user to set or reset.  There are strictly two connectors -- one to accept the OEM harness and the other to distribute functions to your bike.

- choke:  It is the output pin labelled CHK
- LED blinkers:  The output for the turn signal indicator on your gauge is labelled "<", ">" and "<>".  However if you are asking where are the outputs for the actual signal lamps, there are none on the BEP 3.0. If you want to drive LED bulbs in your signal lights, you will have to make modifications to the flasher module.
- fuel level:  If you have a K100 built between 1983 - 1985, then the low fuel indicator output on the BEP is labelled "BAR".  If you have a K100 built after 1985, then there is no fuel level output signal from the BEP. You have to wire that up yourself.
- bulb tester:  It is the output labelled "BT"
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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2018, 09:02:54 AM »
greetings...

1) read the documentation... all of it...

2) search bep3 on this forum... dont be lazy...

3) if you exhaust all posibilities and still are a failure... ask again...

4) did you do this... did you click that mop...

j o


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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2018, 09:13:56 AM »
Hi,

It might be your use the the word "switches" that is misleading.  The BEP 3.0 is a sealed unit and there are no switches for the user to set or reset.  There are strictly two connectors -- one to accept the OEM harness and the other to distribute functions to your bike.

- choke:  It is the output pin labelled CHK
- LED blinkers:  The output for the turn signal indicator on your gauge is labelled "<", ">" and "<>".  However if you are asking where are the outputs for the actual signal lamps, there are none on the BEP 3.0. If you want to drive LED bulbs in your signal lights, you will have to make modifications to the flasher module.
- fuel level:  If you have a K100 built between 1983 - 1985, then the low fuel indicator output on the BEP is labelled "BAR".  If you have a K100 built after 1985, then there is no fuel level output signal from the BEP. You have to wire that up yourself.
- bulb tester:  It is the output labelled "BT"

you are wrong.
the circuit board holds 5 switches that can be switched from outside the box. trying to attach a pciture from the circuit board but get the message invalid attachment. If you don't believe me go to google and search for "BEP 3.0 swichtes".
switch 1 : enable/disable choke
switch 2 : fuel level selector : full bar mode or a LED at 4liter
switch 3 : enable/disable bulbtester
switch 4 : speed stabilisation
switch 5 : enable/disable blinkers

the manual does noet say the position for enable or for disable.
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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2018, 09:52:15 AM »
Hi Mate - On mine the indicator switch was in the non LED position, The fuel bar switch was in the 4 litre mode. The choke was enabled. I don't know what position the other two were in. Don't get angry though. It does not do any damage if there switched round. For example if the indicator is the wrong way it will blink fast.

Rbm - The Switches are recent additions to the 3.0 and were not on the originals.


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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2018, 02:06:29 PM »
Oh, I didn't know that.  Probably always a better idea to go back to the manufacturer for support questions.
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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2018, 05:02:43 PM »
you are wrong.
the circuit board holds 5 switches that can be switched from outside the box. trying to attach a pciture from the circuit board but get the message invalid attachment. If you don't believe me go to google and search for "BEP 3.0 swichtes".
switch 1 : enable/disable choke
switch 2 : fuel level selector : full bar mode or a LED at 4liter
switch 3 : enable/disable bulbtester
switch 4 : speed stabilisation
switch 5 : enable/disable blinkers

the manual does noet say the position for enable or for disable.


Actually I'm not sure about the fuel level switch because the fuel gauge connection is the extra two way plug under the tank. I just took the yellow wire from that for the fuel gauge and left the fuel terminal empty. Do you have a float in the tank?
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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2018, 02:52:41 AM »
I know it will not do any damage but  just would like to know how to put them. Maru labs made a nice box but the manual is not what it needs to be.
Asked my question to the manufacturer but getting no respons.
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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2018, 05:21:08 AM »
If you go to the Café 4 Racer website they are selling the BEP . But they also have downloads to full manuals which are better than the one that came with the unit. I found them very useful.

 https://cafe4racer.eu/en/others/296-marulabs-bep-3.html
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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2018, 05:59:29 AM »
checked all that allready. No info on the switches.
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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2018, 07:36:38 AM »
checked all that allready. No info on the switches.
On mine the indicator switch was in the non LED position, The fuel bar switch was in the 4 litre mode. The choke was enabled. I don't know what position the other two were in. Don't get angry though. It does not do any damage if there switched round. For example if the indicator is the wrong way it will blink fast.
I know it will not do any damage but  just would like to know how to put them. Maru labs made a nice box but the manual is not what it needs to be.
Skunky has indicate the way forward for you. Wire up the unit first then flip the switches according to the equipment on your moto—trial-and-error.

Never mind that the manual is not what you think it should be. You have a product that will work and you have people here explaining to you how to make it work. You're in good shape from what I can see. Keep moving forward.
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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2018, 08:29:20 AM »
Agreed, It depends on so much.

Have you a fuel tank float?

Are your indicators LED?

Are your Lights LED?

Are you fitting a choke light?

Is your speedo compatible with the BEP 3.0 output?

Do you like movies about Gladiators?

Each response could be different and decides which way you throw the switch. Surely half the fun is finding out  :dunno

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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2018, 08:48:21 AM »
Remember to photograph the board or write down the switch positions before you start playing around with them.  If everything goes pear shaped, you can restore it back to factory settings.  It might be that these switches aren't meant to be touched by the end-user. Maru-labs doesn't document these switches. There is such a concept as "no user serviceable parts inside". 
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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2018, 11:18:23 AM »
rbm - they are for the user they have made slots in the case so that you can get to them. Shouldn't be a problem really  :dunno
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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2018, 03:16:44 PM »
rbm - they are for the user they have made slots in the case so that you can get to them. Shouldn't be a problem really  :dunno
The documentation is obviously lagging the development and production then.  No excuse since they can post the latest manuals on their web site.  Maru-labs should be releasing up-to-date documentation with its products, as is standard practice.

I know I try hard to synchronise documentation with my TGPI design updates.
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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2018, 12:03:30 PM »
Hi,
Don't want to hijack your thread, but as I also have installed the BEP 3 quite recently I was hoping that perhaps some of you might help me out. It’s the high-beam warning light (a Koso speedometer) that is constantly ON. Measured the voltage on the white wire (high-beam) and when OFF I read approx 5v on it and when ON around 12v. Should the current be 5v when off, would expect 0v? Should the BEP compensate for this? How do I get my warning-light to turn off? BEP documentation Is very thin on this.

Yes, I have disconnected it and Benny’s riding fine with out warning lights. But now it’s time for the vehicles inspection and they have a requirement on this lamp.

Anyhow, ideas and suggestions are always appropriated.
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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2018, 01:23:41 PM »
Don't want to hijack your thread, . . .
Anyhow, ideas and suggestions are always appropriated.
Start your own thread in the Workshop and put Koso in its title.
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Re: maru labs BEP3.0
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2018, 01:34:49 PM »
Start your own thread in the Workshop and put Koso in its title.
Agree with Laitch because the problem you are describing is probably not caused by the BEP 3.0.  The high beam indicator wire (Pin 15 White) is straight passthrough on the BEP so your problem is probably switch related.
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