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Offline Laitch

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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2018, 10:21:47 AM »
Here is the round-rod pin, its location and where the weld is placed. There must have been some mighty frustration in play when that pin was severed. :giggles

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Offline Timbox

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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2018, 10:34:21 AM »
Laitch,
I plan on getting to the shed sometime this afternoon and moving some projects around.  Need to get the K1 onto the lift table to look at the spine and then see if I can make out where the brake of that seat weld was.  Good to know that it is on the frame...so what is that little hole in the body panel for?  (Don't answer that)
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Offline Laitch

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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2018, 11:00:27 AM »
  Good to know that it is on the frame...so what is that little hole in the body panel for?  (Don't answer that)
Too late. If you are  asking about the hole in the frame gusset, I put the hook of one of my lift straps through it to stabilize the bike on the lift. Otherwise,  :dunno2: .
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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2018, 02:27:22 PM »
I now FB is frowned on here but there is a guy selling what looks like a complete set of seat hardware..


Just in case you needs bits still


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Offline blakey

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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2018, 06:31:14 PM »
"so what is that little hole in the body panel for?"

I believe it was a tie-down point used by the factory when shipping the bikes out.
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Offline Timbox

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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2018, 09:24:20 PM »
Well got to the spline today, looks good for a bike with 52K on her...or at least I think
20180321_122553 by Tim Brown, on Flickr
Both ends seem to look to in good shape and only need to be re-greased.
20180321_123734 by Tim Brown, on Flickr
This little trick is from a youtube vid I watched and said to plug the hollow part so the grease will not be driven or pulled up the hollow shaft.  Letting it dry for a few days before I put grease back on her and button her up.
20180321_123929 by Tim Brown, on Flickr

So I i know there should be a special grease for the splines but why not high temp bearing grease?  Thanks
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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2018, 10:04:19 PM »
So I i know there should be a special great for the splines but why not high temp bearing grease?
The loads that bearings put on grease are far different than those that splines do.  For these you need a REALLY REALLY sticky grease with a high Moly content.
Staburags, Honda Moly, Guard Dog, etc are what needs to be on there...

In the end they are your splines.  Good luck!

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Offline Timbox

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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2018, 10:18:15 PM »
thecablebuy, Right you are...Moly is on the way...thanks for pointing that out.
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Offline Laitch

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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2018, 10:23:19 PM »
This little trick is from a youtube vid I watched and said to plug the hollow part so the grease will not be driven or pulled up the hollow shaft. Letting it dry for a few days before I put grease back on her and button her up.
What did you use to plug the hole and what are you letting dry? Where is the link to the video that inspired you?
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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2018, 10:37:06 PM »
Here is the link and it talks about the sealant at about the 4:50 mark
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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2018, 11:34:03 PM »
Here is the link and it talks about the sealant at about the 4:50 mark
Thanks for the link. I was hoping you'd explain exactly how you made the plug, how much material was used and what brand was used.
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Offline Timbox

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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2018, 10:37:55 AM »
For me it is just a guess, anything in there that is playable will not hurt anything if dislodged.  100% silicon calk and put a plug just past the splines where it starts to get wider.  The nice thing is that just happens to be about as long as the nipple on the calk tube :) I did clean the inside with B12 chemtool so that it would stick to the surface better.

Can't get to the bike today but with the temps (I hope in the high 40's) it should dry well.  I am waiting on the Moly grease anyway and can't do much...there is that seat thing...hmmm...well for another day.
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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #62 on: March 25, 2018, 06:56:08 PM »
Got the brick all put back together and air up the tires.  Got the old helmet out and took the brick down the road for the first time.  It was smooth but the front end needs to be looks at.  Not too sure but I would guess the steering head need to be be looked at and or grease well.  There is a defiantly a issue with a light wobble that I am not sure is from. 

As for the rest of the bike, it feels good and the engine seemed to be very smooth.  Not issues but a little miss but the bike has not been out riding with a load on the engine for 10+ yrs.  I would give it some slack with a little miss or surge at first. 

Looks like I will have to strip the rest of the front off the bike and take a look at that steering head...good thing it is not riding weather here yet...
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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #63 on: March 25, 2018, 08:32:47 PM »
greetings...

they all wobble... just some more than others... usually tiors whack or forks in need of flush and fill 1st then onto steering head...

ride dangerously...

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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #64 on: March 25, 2018, 08:58:53 PM »
Johnny is the man.  Get the front wheel off and get it balanced.  Put on a new tire if the old one is more than 4 years old.  Then decide if you need to screw with the steering head.
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Offline Timbox

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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #65 on: March 26, 2018, 05:58:10 AM »
Thanks you two, I will do that...." they all wobble" really.....hmmm  I did notice that the current front tire is not holding air, even thought it sill has the new tires rubber needles all over it still (yes that new).  I need to do a leak test on the tire, good soapy water when it is up to pressure and see what I can see.
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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #66 on: March 26, 2018, 08:31:20 AM »
greetings...

if it this tior... looks like a rear on the front and the orientation arrow going wrong way... id flush and fill the forks and getts new tiors and metal valve stems and inflate it to sidewall maximum before trying to figger out a wobble...

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Offline Timbox

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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #67 on: March 26, 2018, 07:16:18 PM »
Johnny,

Man you have a good eye!  I will take a look at that and go from there.  I did notice that the fork gators were all miss aligned and very hard to move.  I put some oil on them to get some play in them and compressed them to a normal looking fork protector.  I could tell the difference in the steering just from that...

If that arrow is backwards and it is the tire on the rim issue, that will have to be taken care of  :)  I don't know if I can just waap around the wheel, as most of you can't. 

First spring rain in the area, just hoping that some sand gets of these roads.
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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #68 on: March 27, 2018, 02:29:43 PM »
Not too sure if this is what was called a "snipe" hunt or not, but the tire is on correctly with the correct rotation and even says "front" but you did make me look.  Worked on the seat today and still needs some tweaking to work without hassle.  I will get to the forks one of these days, need to do some more reading and then change fork oil.
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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #69 on: March 27, 2018, 04:20:37 PM »
Balance the tire(s).  I thought my front was balanced because it was pretty new when I got the bike and there were weights on the rim, but when I checked it, it was out by nearly an ounce.  Once I balanced it properly, the front end got nice and smooth.
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Offline Timbox

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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #70 on: March 27, 2018, 05:59:25 PM »
That makes sense... :clap:
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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #71 on: March 28, 2018, 09:36:26 AM »
no snipes in or around tomah... proally a hodag hunt... at least you looked...
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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #72 on: March 30, 2018, 08:26:49 AM »
Worked on the seat a little yesterday, had to walk away from it.  It was just not lining up and so much of that hinge was miss off the frame, it will be hard to mock it up and weld it.  I will keep looking at it and come up with a plan.

The Final paper work from Wisconsin DMV came back today, now for the phone call to get the Bond on the bike.  Send all that in and get the "Bonded title" with the work bond in print on the title for five yrs. 

From my reading, if I do this again (no title bike) I think I will try the Vermont registration method for the $35.  It seems the best way to do it even thought it just seem strange as I am unfamiliar with that process.   
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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #73 on: March 30, 2018, 09:18:44 AM »
greetings...

this is how i fixt that seat mount issue...

cleaned the paint off the frame... put a 1/4 bolt in the seat part of the hinge screwed into a long 1/4 all thread coupling... with seat in the down position... vice gripped the coupling to the frame... took off the whole shebang except the coupling and vice gripps... welded the coupling to the frame...

put it back together and now instead if that rod and clip... just screw the bolt into the coupling...

ride dangerously...

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Offline Timbox

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Re: Giving the old Brick the TLC she needs...87 K100 RS
« Reply #74 on: March 31, 2018, 08:58:07 AM »
That is great advice, I like the way you think....That seems to make good sense to me and should make things a little more user friendly.  Snow and sleet here, so it might be a good weekend to do that.

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