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Offline Rcgreaves

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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2017, 10:41:32 PM »
greetings...

if you wants to ride a low seat home today i come fetch you... you ride bitch... we roll to sota up the 35... bring straps to haul the extras...

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No I won't have $ til next week...35 bitchin w you would be memorable.  No sense looking sans $$ otherwise I'd say Yes.

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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2017, 11:59:43 PM »
Have you decided for sure to restore the bike? I've also seen some posts you made about buying a different bike with the insurance proceeds. If I was in your position, I would buy another running K75s and strip the crashed one: keep some spare parts and sell others. If your tires are still good, that's worth $100 already...


My biggest concern for you is the forks. You mentioned they were stuck. If the fork tubes are bent, it will expensive to replace. Then you have to wonder if the frame has bent, even a little.
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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2017, 05:03:31 AM »
Have you decided for sure to restore the bike? I've also seen some posts you made about buying a different bike with the insurance proceeds. If I was in your position, I would buy another running K75s and strip the crashed one: keep some spare parts and sell others.
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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2017, 02:41:48 PM »
I think the results of tomorrow's appraisal will make up my mind... With the bike fully stripped of problem parts and a few I discovered like a cracked airbox top sealed w duct tape .
the price of used replacements paint and materials is more than the payout.  I may walk away from all the fiberglass work u less the salvage quote is very low...the compressed forks suggest a disassembly roll on a flat table and reseal would be prudent with a pros assessment of the springs.  Nobody commented how struts can lock down collapsed like that...worrisome


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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2017, 04:34:18 PM »
  Nobody commented how struts can lock down collapsed like that...worrisome
I'll take on that task. :giggles Maybe the severe impact created vacuum and friction enough to hold them in compression until jarring them created the release. I wouldn't worry about them. If I had money enough to get a different bike, I'd get rid of them unless I wanted to build my mechanical and troubleshooting skill more than ride. Start negotiating with Gryph. He's been making room in his garage for just such an acquisition. :yes
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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2017, 10:17:22 AM »
Still grinning from my read of the "what I did to my brick today" post as I type. " Just when I thought I was going to get out, the pulled me back in"'


It's true Ive been seriously considering what most reviews site as best ST....the Honda ST 1300 but the pull of the Motobrick family is there to be sure... Thanks, ive been difficult to live with since Wednesday and grinning rare.


btw Laitch im still numbplussed, not nonplussed....a little Jonny, a little high brow.. I give my self a +1 for my perfect typo descriptor of how I feel..


Appraiser in an hour, time to pick up my tools and clean up.


Here's gone_ape's info about suspension preload from the other thread.. I match his 200 ish # so I'll look this over..

[/size]___________
[/size]RCG, Glad you're ok....speed wobbles are my least favorite "fruit-of-the-loom-mandatory change" moments. [/size]Just curious....have you checked your suspension sag...static and loaded?  Fork Preload CAN be changed by swapping  top of spring spacers in the forks....some use PVC, but  I've found the Chrome plated brass 12 inch long 1 1/4" Bathroom sink drain Tailpiece  pipe (at Lowes/Home Depot/Ace hardware etc...) to be almost an exact diameter to the original and you can cut it to size to give you the sag you need. I'm 200 lbs w/o gear and the standard 10mm of preload was too soft....bottoming occasionally.... I ended up with 25 mm of preload and am happy with that/any more and I'd be going to a heavier front fork spring--also using the BMW 10w fork oil at the recommended volume for my type fork (Showa), which is 410cc drain/fill and 420cc diassembled......then turn your attention to the rear shock preload and adjust as well for sag.......There's some helpful info here:    http://www.ibmwr.org/ktech/fork-oil.shtml
Fork Oil Quantities/Capacities Model            Leg      Change       Disassemble K75 Showa                                                  L        410 cc        420 cc K75 Showa                                                  R        410 cc        420 cc K75 BMW                                                     L        330 cc K75 BMW                                                     R        330 cc K75 Sport                                                    L        280 cc K75 Sport                                                    R        280 cc (Has an "S" stamped on the aluminum plug on top of the leg.)

forks and frame seem ok, engine starts and shifts... Im with Gryph on the salvage value, but decline your kind offer...Wifey may claim the money prize from the insurance claim but the brick remains my prize.   


I know I need a trans spline lube and I know I will do the clutch disc. Ive read those posts and have parts lists started. so the trans will come out soon  as that's where I'll have to start before reassembly.  Now may be the time to assess compression etc. but from the way she accelerates that's not an immediate problem.  Ill chech the valves .




I'll be upside down when im done but my spring rides will be glorious.  I need to reread the fibron repair posts as I have plenty of that to do.. my repairs last year held up other than with 500# at 5 or 10g Bricks wo fairings are...bricks.. but what a tank like shape when stripped. 
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Offline Rcgreaves

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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2017, 02:23:58 AM »
Appraiser came and made a generous $300 salvage value offer.  I'll restore it.  Now back to work tomorrow...

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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2017, 11:55:21 AM »
With an eclipse day off...thats how rare it is.. :hehehe   Im digging into some fairing repairs.


pinged Gryph today for guidance on fg and paint.  http://www.motobrick.com/index.php/topic,9018.0.html


  Im a boater, a model builder,  but the BMW paint materials are a bit sketchy..I hope to reproduce the Columbia Silver OEM color if possible.  a pro painter has offered to help me shoot my resto ed panels. 
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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2017, 12:08:42 PM »
greetings...

you are gonna need to paint the whole shebang if you want it to match...

id getts my paint from holt...

http://www.holtbmw.com/

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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2017, 01:20:57 PM »
the shebang it is then, Holt closed today, left a contact email. Thanks. JO
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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2017, 04:09:04 PM »
It really is a buyers market for bricks... I had to freeze my credit card,padlock the freezer door and give the key to my wifey. looking at feebay this past week.....back up bike still has carb...issues. 


thinking seriously of pulling the shaft and trans and clutch another side realized that other than a mount point for blinkers I could have this thing on the road naked in an afternoon. hmmmmm. 


Who has made a floor standing crutch for the rear of their brick..Ive seen the saw horses and ropes slung over rafters, either of which I could do, but why  not a purpose build stand?
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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2017, 04:30:57 PM »
I defy anyone to spot the repainted fairing parts on my K75rt that were painted with computer matched auto paint.  Finding a BASF paint dealer is almost impossible, the Glasurit paint is stupid expensive, almost as bad as getting it at a stealer, and even then the one I called didn't have the formula and would have to do the computer match anyway.

Take a good panel to any auto paint dealer and have them match it.  They will even be able to match any fade there may be in the original or have them match a shaded part for the original color.
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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2017, 04:36:59 PM »
ok Jim, I'll take the tank along to work tomorrow and stop by the shop in town. Cheers.
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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2017, 06:24:59 PM »
RC I made a front wheel support that I can push my bike into and I used it when a removed my gearbox.  However I used two sawhorses at the rear, one either side parallel to the bike I then ran a piece of 4x4 through the frame. Doing this gives you more room around the bike, I didn't have to clamp the frame to the timber due to the front support. But I believe if I had clamped the frame to the timber and sawhorses I would not have needed the font support. The front wheel support was made in a hurry with what I had on hand at the time, and is over engineered and a bit of a Frankenstein's monster. I will post pictures if requested but it is stored in my back shed and is a pain to get to.
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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2017, 06:51:36 PM »
the 4x4 is a great idea.. I have a front wheen chock not yet mounted on my trailer so I'll come up with somthing to tie the tire chock wiht the saw horses or similar.  thanks no pics necessary.  Ive seen enough in past


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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2017, 04:47:58 PM »
Paint quote from Holt..  "holy #$#$#  $500!!!!


Hi Clayton,
Yes, we can supply you with Columbia Silver.  A quart kit is $485.95 plus $20/sh and contains a quart of color, quart of clear, hardener for the clear and reducer for the color.  The material is Glasurit 55-Line.
If you'd like to place an order please call us at 740-593-6690.

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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2017, 05:32:27 PM »
Please, take a part to an auto paint supplier and have them match it! 

I paid something like $60 for enough Mystic red base coat to do an entire RT fairing with enough left over to to do the rest of the bike.  And they guarantee the match.   Add in $15 for a quart of reducer and you're ready to go.

It's amazing what the paint guys can do these days.   You don't have to let BMW or BASF screw you.
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'94 K75S "Cheetos"
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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2017, 05:33:31 PM »
Yes that's certainly my intent, tomorrw.  Thanks.
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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2017, 05:36:06 PM »
When getting replacement panels for my K1200LT painted (deer strike) I just took the paint code to my small town body shop and they were able to mix the color and painted the three panels (nose cone, side panel (new, primed) and used different color saddlebag for about $500. They even gave me a small tin of paint for touch up. I dropped it off on a Monday afternoon and it was ready the next morning!


They also matched a color from a helmet, repaired my repairs and painted the cowl, tank, battery covers, and tail piece of the R65 for the same money. Nice to have a good local!
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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2017, 09:01:52 PM »
Who has made a floor standing crutch for the rear of their brick..Ive seen the saw horses and ropes slung over rafters, either of which I could do, but why  not a purpose build stand?

1) With the bike on the center stand, take off the rear wheel, final drive (being sure to support the swing arm so as not to tear the rubber boot) and swing arm and drive shaft (there's a bit more to it than that, but the steps will be obvious enough).

2) Take out the "brain" (computer) that lives under the saddle. Refer to your Haynes or Clymer to show you how to unplug the huge connector.

3) Put one sawhorse on either side of the bike, with the tops of the sawhorses parallel to the length of the bike.

4) Slip a 2x4 through the space in the frame where the brain was. Have someone help you place one end of the 2x4 on each sawhorse. In the process you will lift the center stand off the floor.

5) You are now free to remove the center stand and pull the transmission (especially if you put enough space between the sawhorses).
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Re: 1987 K75S accident restoration project
« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2017, 05:36:47 AM »
greetings...

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